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Old 12-14-2007, 09:10 PM  
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:41 PM  
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1. Leave the current contested versions as they are.
2. Add instanced versions of ALL contested content for the highest two tiers.
3. Instanced mobs drop NOTHING when you kill them. They're there for practise and that's it. If you die, you still take armor damage.
4. Instances have a lockout similar to their spawn times. Using the Avatar of XXX instance will set your lockout timer on ALL Avatar instances.

There we go, the ubah raiders still get to be ubah because they have better gear. They still get to feel 1337 because they're denying that loot to other players. No one gets to complain that they haven't had enough pulls of the mobs, because there are instanced versions available for everyone. People who want a chance to fight the content can do so.

Problem solved.
I noticed you all ignored this suggestion and just continued your little flame war. This suggests you actually don't care about the question and are just here to bitch and moan at each other.

Oh and Pagan... WTF was the question? Not sure how you can complain that people havent answered the question when we can't even FIND the question...?
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:59 PM  
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I noticed you all ignored this suggestion and just continued your little flame war. This suggests you actually don't care about the question and are just here to bitch and moan at each other.
There was already an example of this... MMIS Mayong and Contested Mayong. They are literally the same encounter apart from the increased adds on the Contested version.

The people/guilds complaining about not getting chances of Contested such as Contested Mayong, could probably not kill the easier Instanced version until several nerfs had been put in place.

So, while it sounds like a good idea, it isn't.
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:06 PM  
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I noticed you all ignored this suggestion and just continued your little flame war. This suggests you actually don't care about the question and are just here to bitch and moan at each other.

Oh and Pagan... WTF was the question? Not sure how you can complain that people havent answered the question when we can't even FIND the question...?
Not only did I quote it, I pointed to the page.

If you can't read like alesis.... damn it boy, I'm sorry for you.
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:32 PM  
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Exactly. All those people who spout the "we do it for the competition" are lying to themselves and everyone else. With the exception of a few, most servers are 1 guild having everything on lock, and thats the way they like it. If people were really about the "competition" as they claim, they would be moving their guild to a server with a powerhouse WW guild. Not running away from them, so they can get there own server to dominate, as so many have done in the past.
If this did happen then there would just be more guilds out there on the other servers that would step up and start talking shit about being that good. Some guilds have been on the same servers since launch, players in the guilds move around due to what classes are needed and who has openings.
Strike and Chaotic legion are the only top guilds that I can remember that purposely moved to another server to get away from competition, STD did as well but they got owned and broke up after they moved to unrest and still could not kill shit. There are servers were contested are being killed by more than one guild and the competition is fierce enough to be raiding at all hours depending on spawn times.

Contesteds are the best loot in the game and you have to have the commitment and availability of players in order to kill them which is why the rewards are so great.
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:28 AM  
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Not only did I quote it, I pointed to the page.

If you can't read like alesis.... damn it boy, I'm sorry for you.
Yes you did, I missed it. My bad.
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Old 12-15-2007, 03:07 AM  
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1. Leave the current contested versions as they are.
2. Add instanced versions of ALL contested content for the highest two tiers.
3. Instanced mobs drop NOTHING when you kill them. They're there for practise and that's it. If you die, you still take armor damage.
4. Instances have a lockout similar to their spawn times. Using the Avatar of XXX instance will set your lockout timer on ALL Avatar instances.

There we go, the ubah raiders still get to be ubah because they have better gear. They still get to feel 1337 because they're denying that loot to other players. No one gets to complain that they haven't had enough pulls of the mobs, because there are instanced versions available for everyone. People who want a chance to fight the content can do so.

Problem solved.
Worst. Suggestion. Ever.
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Old 12-15-2007, 03:30 AM  
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Why? It solves all the problems. People will quit bitching about not being able to see content and the people who get the 'real' versions still get to monopolise the loot and feel uber.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:40 AM  
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Strike and Chaotic legion are the only top guilds that I can remember that purposely moved to another server to get away from competition, STD did as well but they got owned and broke up after they moved to unrest and still could not kill shit. There are servers were contested are being killed by more than one guild and the competition is fierce enough to be raiding at all hours depending on spawn times.

Contesteds are the best loot in the game and you have to have the commitment and availability of players in order to kill them which is why the rewards are so great.
!?!?! Be carefull dude- 20 people just argued for 50 pages that it only takes 3 15 minute play sessions a week, and that the time requirement myth was just that, a myth.
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!?!?! Be carefull dude- 20 people just argued for 50 pages that it only takes 3 15 minute play sessions a week, and that the time requirement myth was just that, a myth.
yeah, your 'I play 2 days a week' is clearly not enough to kill contesteds.
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