Should contested Epics even be bothered with? - Page 56

Edwin Ahe · 12-15-2007, 09:11 AM

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I noticed you all ignored this suggestion and just continued your little flame war. This suggests you actually don't care about the question and are just here to bitch and moan at each other.

This will solve nothing at all. Because people will still cry and whine. They don`t want to kill mobs, they want phatz.

Angelys · 12-15-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Edwin Ahe

This will solve nothing at all. Because people will still cry and whine. They don`t want to kill mobs, they want phatz.

Exactly.

Of course they will use the instanced version of the mob until they *maybe* kill it, or until their members get tired and leave and don't want to come again, because it's too hard for something they won't be rewarded for.
Then they will want the contested version, and since they will still lose, they will complain again because they didn't manage, with a roster of 150 people, to have enough people logging in at 6 or 7pm instead of 8pm.

I don't know why people think there is something to solve, there's no problem at all. It's been proved in this thread that a guild can lose its domination, and since a mob is not locked to anyone when it spawns, locking down mobs with a very random respawn timer is not possible, unless you're retarded it's not that hard to understand. Especially with the Avatars that had their timer starting when they were spawning, not when they were killed, and could be from 3 to 6 or 7 days, so I don't see how you could lock them down. Also the PHH has been killed by at least 2 guilds on most servers if not all of them.

You CAN'T lock down a mob, it is NOT possible.

Obsidian · 12-15-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

!?!?! Be carefull dude- 20 people just argued for 50 pages that it only takes 3 15 minute play sessions a week, and that the time requirement myth was just that, a myth.

plz show us were anyone has said it takes 3 15 minute sessions a week to kill contested plz show us now

the point being made by most is that it takes more than just logging in and whinning like its your time of the month

as has also been said the tangrin is up now why dont you and your guild go and try it for a 3 hours ?

because its hard and we will wipe and wah wah wah wah wah fucking wah !

JAime · 12-16-2007, 01:33 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...

Malacai is my hero (page 44: http://www.eq2flames.com/general-gam...thered-44.html)

LMAO

Traxor · 12-16-2007, 06:00 PM

You sir just got pwned!
Malacai with the serve, ace , set , match.

TheEasternking · 12-19-2007, 01:27 AM

pretty sure the raid progression in dof ended with an instanced encounter ..that dropped the best gear in the tier for its slots ...and was so had only 4 guilds WW killed it ..how many guilds killed the contested in dof WW ?
i dont remember any real cry back then that the loot was to good cos it was instanced ...nor do i remember any crying that the hardest mob in the game ...and possibly the hardest raid they ever added to this game was in an instance....yet to be the top you kill contested ? yet in dof to be the very very cream of the crop you killed an instanced mob

you want challenging fights ? in dof DMP / PPtR and even PoS were much much harder than any contested ..and there was a clear linear progression, that worked..granted PPrT went from insanely hard to stupidly easy once you lucked out and got a ring drop of the trash. but you are not going to get them kind of fights outside of an instance,
So what would you all like ...easy as fuck contested mobs ..which are only unkillable while soe has them set to be so ...or super scripted fights that require the absolute best of the best to even have a chance of kiling them ..i dont nor can i recall any raider who would consider any contested we have seen to date as hard as DMP ...killing that one instanced mob meant you were the absolute shit hot best thing in eq2...
which is the whole point isnt it ....so you guys are seriously telling me youd rather have shitty contested that any fucking idiot can kill ..or actual real challenging INSTANCED raid content that makes a clear delineating line between good and superb players ?
i know which would get my vote ...but hey some people thinks being able to play 24/7 is a good sign of player skill and ability.

aduros · 12-19-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheEasternking

pretty sure the raid progression in dof ended with an instanced encounter ..that dropped the best gear in the tier for its slots ...and was so had only 4 guilds WW killed it ..how many guilds killed the contested in dof WW ?
i dont remember any real cry back then that the loot was to good cos it was instanced ...nor do i remember any crying that the hardest mob in the game ...and possibly the hardest raid they ever added to this game was in an instance....yet to be the top you kill contested ? yet in dof to be the very very cream of the crop you killed an instanced mob

you want challenging fights ? in dof DMP / PPtR and even PoS were much much harder than any contested ..and there was a clear linear progression, that worked..granted PPrT went from insanely hard to stupidly easy once you lucked out and got a ring drop of the trash. but you are not going to get them kind of fights outside of an instance,
So what would you all like ...easy as fuck contested mobs ..which are only unkillable while soe has them set to be so ...or super scripted fights that require the absolute best of the best to even have a chance of kiling them ..i dont nor can i recall any raider who would consider any contested we have seen to date as hard as DMP ...killing that one instanced mob meant you were the absolute shit hot best thing in eq2...
which is the whole point isnt it ....so you guys are seriously telling me youd rather have shitty contested that any fucking idiot can kill ..or actual real challenging INSTANCED raid content that makes a clear delineating line between good and superb players ?
i know which would get my vote ...but hey some people thinks being able to play 24/7 is a good sign of player skill and ability.

Punctuation aside, you bring up a very good point.

Crychtonn - Bylar · 12-19-2007, 12:26 PM

I saw this today and I'm not sure why but this thread came to mind.

hennyo · 12-19-2007, 12:41 PM

To be honest, if there was a single thing DoF got right, it was the only expansion to have clear and consise raid progression. Whoever did DoF raid progression needs to be brought back, now granted there were things wrong with DoF raids, there was a clear order of increased difficulty between differnt raid zones even if they weren't named teir 1, 2, 3, or 4. But everyone knew which zones were harder, and being able to clear what zones clearly divied the guilds into differnt tiers. The quality of the gear also was clearly obvious between them.

methulah · 12-19-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEasternking

so you guys are seriously telling me youd rather have shitty contested that any fucking idiot can kill ..or actual real challenging INSTANCED raid content that makes a clear delineating line between good and superb players ?
i know which would get my vote ...but hey some people thinks being able to play 24/7 is a good sign of player skill and ability.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm saying I want good contested encounters that require real skill, and some top notch instanced content in Everquest II. It shouldn't be too much to ask.