Stonestrong

Just cause you can't/don't kill it means they should take it out the game? What a fucking douchebag. There is tons of content other than contested for you to fucking spend your time on, but you don't want people to have the few contested mobs they have? Seems to me if you don't care about killing them then you should fucking ignore them and go do unrest, maybe you can kill shit in there since its green now........

Namai

(preface this by saying I have not killed a current contested mob since T6)

Even though that itself is a fairly large number, its actually a lot larger than that.

Not counting PvP servers (based on the assumption that even the raiders there are playing for PvP rather than contested), there are 22 servers in this game. If it were true that there were only 50 accounts per server that would be effected by instancing all contested mobs, that would be $16k a month they lose.

However...

Most servers, as has been stated, have multiple guilds pulling (if not actually killing) contested mobs. Some have up to 6 guilds on one server. As a relative estimated guess, I would say there is an average of 3 guilds per server pulling contested mobs, with an average of 50 members per guild.

Suddenly, you are talking about 3,300 accounts, but it still doesn't end!
These players are, for the most part, the most hardcore players of this game. As such, the vast majority of them have multiple accounts. On top of that, they have friends or relatives playing this game, who are simply there to kill shit with their mate/relative/wtfever.

I myself have 7 accounts that, should I leave the game, would go with me (4 of my own, 2 belonging to my brother, and one to a friend). I am going to assume that this is higher than the average player though, and say that, as an average, should a hardcore raider leave this game, they would take 3 accounts with them. This seems to me to be a fair approximation based on the people I know in various top end guilds (most of the players I know have multiple accounts as well).

Suddenly, you are talking about losing 9,900 accounts (almost $150k a month, or 1.78 MILLION dollars a year, less expansions).

Do you really want SoE to throw away that much money?

Do you honestly think that with the loss of income and the lack of population this would create, the game would carry on much longer?

All this just to make the small population of raiders that DO NOT kill contested mobs a little bit happier (note that I include myself in this group, not that it would make me happier).

Gaige

Point A: Then Elysium is a bitch guild and that shit is even more funny than I originally assumed. What kind of hardcore guild gets a mob to under 10% then quits pulling it for "months". A bitch guild that's what kind.

Point B: People from Dissolution called me a shitty dirge because I was. I don't see people from CL calling me a shitty assassin or my past guilds calling me a shitty monk turned bruiser. Dirge is boring and dumb and I hated playing it and I made no strives to become a better dirge. I showed up, buffed, auto attacked and sometimes used a CA or spell.

I've never been called a shitty player I've simply been called a shitty dirge.

As for guild hopping, in a game as small as EQ2 with the limited amount of contested guilds, people move around. I'm not the only one by a longshot.

My first raid guild was FoH which I left when we started losing mobs to Iconoclast and because the loot distribution was fucked. I then went to Amend and stayed basically until it died, I then went to Dissolution and stayed until told to exploit or leave, I went to Vagabonds which died when Vanguard released and then to Chaotic Legion where I remain. I also almost joined Fable, but not really.

So 5 guilds in 3 years. /shrug

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gungo

Yes sure since i worked the tyco/enron cases you idiot.

Tax write off is not illegal. It is in fact encouraged.
It is fucking basic accounting to write off losses and include gains.

Tyco included using corporate funds for individual expenses.
Enron included SEC violations by using thier accounting firm to hide losses by sending the losses into sham companies. In example they create a company in name only then send all the losses on paper to that company. Then report on thier financial reports they had a profit larger then they should. When in fact they actually OWN the other company.

Do you not see the difference of lieing and hiding compared to the basic accounting principle of including gains and losses?

No i guess not... please stop blabbering about concepts you obviously don't have the intelligence to talk about.

gungo

A)A guild that lost members and focused more on moral at the time then tryign to kill a mob, until we were challenged by another guild. Lol wtf is a bitch guild? are you trying to insult me somehow? For a 30 year old man that lives with his mother you really are pathetic if that is all you coudl come up with. Why don't you run upstairs and ask mom for a better insult.

B)Again you were a shitty player, heck you can't even stay on 1 class long enough. Most likely it wasn't becuase you were actually very good at that class. Because obviosuly if you were better then normal at that class people would actually want you to play that class. Instead i get excuses how there is such a limited amount of contested guilds that no one wanted such an exceptional player such as yourself you needed to change servers and classes so many times.

Obsidian

WTB everything contested including quest update shit :P

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Cuz

How long would you say designing and implementing a contested mob takes? It can't be very long. 1 character modeler, one designer, and maybe one programmer to add a new trick or spell that isn't accessible yet. I'd guess that even if they only keep 50 accounts per server, cost of development is low enough that it's worth it.

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Uyaem

Playing an MMO without contesteds = playing soccer with 22 balls on the field.
Unless you like grabbing other people's balls, it gets boring soon.
Pun intended.

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Kungao

lol go Uyaem ^_^

Gaige

I don't have an upstairs, I live in a one story house.

As for the other BS: You've never played with me. I was an exceptional monk/bruiser who tanked more raid content than other brawlers of the day. I was the voice behind many changes that made the brawler class viable. You can thank me later.

I stayed on one class "long enough". I was a brawler for two years until Ishbu wanted me to come to Dissolution and they had no brawler spot, because we all know, especially before raid wide buffs, more than one brawler wasn't needed. They needed a dirge so I played a dirge.

I came back as an assassin because I sold my brawler. I wanted to play a dps class. So now you're implying that everyone who has ever switched mains did so because they suck. Interesting.

I already explained why I switched guilds/servers, so I'm not reiterating that at this time.

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