Should EQ2 Developers Be Allowed To Join Raid Guilds? - Page 6

Argyuile · 12-16-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracatoa

Someone wasn't around for Ardent Legion's uber Dev port into Darathar when nobody else could zone in.

What about the fact that every guild with a dev in it gets transferred to Beta and walked through just about every raid? Please, don't deny that happens. I've been on some of those raids back in FoH. The Devs hold your hand and tell you everything. Its amazingly gay.

There are people here with a lot better information about this sort of thing than I have, first hand at that. Trust me, EQ2 devs are the most notoriously corrupt amongst them all. They'd have been all fired long ago for some of this shit if they tried it at Blizzard.

Don't forget Drow getting there lockout timer reset when everyone was trying to unlock the froglocks.

I think that the answer is that Dev's just all have to play on a single live server. If they are split between the guild fine,they all wanna be in the same guild, whatever. Then all the Dev supported guilds can compete with eachother will the non-dev supported guilds can be on a level playing field.

Illuminator · 12-16-2007, 02:56 PM

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Originally Posted by Cracatoa

Well, SOE has nothing to complain about concerning content not lasting long. Their the entire problem. Their own people are of course not gonna wanna sit there wiping all night on something. Voila, in comes the strats.

There it is.

Gaige · 12-16-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

There it is.

Except RoK is so easy you don't need a dev in your guild to get the "strats".

VP would've been cleared by at least 3 guilds first time in if Phara Dar wasn't tweaked a little on the impossible side.

I always chuckle at cries of easy from guilds who haven't cleared VP yet. Obviously it isn't that easy unless you're guild is currently stuck on Trak and his amazing damage shield.

kyros · 12-16-2007, 03:34 PM

so lemme get this straight... all i've heard in other threads is people whining that devs don't play and don't know what the content is about.

but devs shouldn't play and raid in competitive guilds? right. let's take away their ability to perceive the content as a player. THAT will make the game more fun.

my opinion: let them play. any dev with a shred of honor and self-worth will not give out favors. players will enjoy the experience of playing with the people that make the game. devs get to actually interact with other high end gamers and are more likely to understand problems that arise with the game.

i'm sorry if you're that worried about a guild with a dev being better than you. pretty lame.

aduros · 12-16-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kyros

so lemme get this straight... all i've heard in other threads is people whining that devs don't play and don't know what the content is about.

but devs shouldn't play and raid in competitive guilds? right. let's take away their ability to perceive the content as a player. THAT will make the game more fun.

They have been raiding in high-end guilds since launch. So lets cut this bullshit of 'oh well if they get to raid they can finally fix our problems'. Well guess what: They've been raiding since launch yet the same problems still exist, and some have gotten worse. Raiding in a high end guild isn't their only way to 'percieve content as a player'. In fact they stated themselves that high end raid guilds make up 1% of 1%.

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Originally Posted by kyros

my opinion: let them play. any dev with a shred of honor and self-worth will not give out favors. players will enjoy the experience of playing with the people that make the game. devs get to actually interact with other high end gamers and are more likely to understand problems that arise with the game.

Why not keep your identity secret then? What good could possibly come of your guild knowing your a dev, aside from constant pleas to 'help' them.

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Originally Posted by kyros

i'm sorry if you're that worried about a guild with a dev being better than you. pretty lame.

Ok, Jackass. Look up my toons and ask yourself if it looks like I'm raiding hardcore anymore. Nope, I'm pretty casual now. So lets cut the shit right here: I'm focusing on a topic that affects more people than myself. So no one else try and pull that 'stop crying because devs are beating you' bullshit. I'm talking about an issue thats been going on since launch, that has to do with developer ethics and their interaction with players on live server high end raid guilds, and right now it reeks of foul play. So please, don't be a Dumbass.

Fomka · 12-16-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Orochan

I need to type /Sarcasm more it seems.

don't be stupid, sure I got ya sarcasm or I would've said that you was dumb etc...

TANGARTH · 12-16-2007, 07:37 PM

what about coders?

/WINK

Cracatoa · 12-16-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Daedalus

QFE
If playing helps them figure out how to fix shit, then I don't care if they play.
Just as long as they aren't giving guilds huge favors.

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Tigole copies guilds to test realms in WoW all the time and walks them through the raid content...

You worked there? You know Tigole personally?

If Tigole copied over a guild he was personally involved with, he'd be fired. Its in the company policy handbook. They have an entire team dedicated to doing nothing but making sure their own employees aren't cheating.

Daedalus · 12-16-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracatoa

You worked there? You know Tigole personally?

If Tigole copied over a guild he was personally involved with, he'd be fired. Its in the company policy handbook. They have an entire team dedicated to doing nothing but making sure their own employees aren't cheating.

*Ty for the clarification

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If a dev can play and play clean, then I don't care.

Cracatoa · 12-16-2007, 08:13 PM

Didn't mean to quote you there, not sure how that happened. Sorry bout that.