Otis

No, I think if they implement an RMT mechanic for EQ2, you'll see an NGE type response from the player-base.

Edit: Bah - you changed it to Talonis

Edwin Ahe

If that happens we can officialy declare MMO genre dead.

LFG

No, I'm talking about my thread, on this site. There was a response in it, as I recall. That's where I'd look first for the smoking gun.

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Flaming Homo

This is just an endorsement of a shift in the online gaming community (the players, not the publishers) that I simply do not like. It's the mindset that seeks immediate, and I mean right now or I'm going to throw a hissy fit, gratification. This is driven by weak-minded, deficient mentality players (representative of the majority of humankind) who are unable to set goals for themselves and then play through to achieve them. These are the fucktwits who have been conditioned to receive a trophy without striving to achieve anything other than simply showing up.

We've all seen this coming. It's what Smedley wanted to do from the start, but they did that little in-game poll and most players at the time voted no and so they created the Station Exchange servers instead. Of course, we all know, most players now buy plat anyway, else the chinese farmers would not have customers and hence would not be farming.

SOE is responding to their customer base by providing the service that most of their subscribers want, even if the customers will not state so openly.

This is not what I want in a game. I don't want to buy my way through the game; I want to play my way through. I guess I'm just out of step with the majority of today's MMO subscribers.

RadarX

It sounds like we do agree indeed sir. I have issues when major RMT mechanics are forced on to something not designed for them. I have to look at what Pinksi said though and wonder is this really about EQ2? It's no secret SOE is looking to expand into the Asian market and you just can't do it with a traditional product (even World of Warcraft is only a marginal success over there).

Is SOE trying to make money? Hell yeah they are. The profit margins for RMT vs the old school sub are insane and they'd be poor businessmen not to pursue it. Will there be some PR fallout? Possibly. I can't in good conscience say they are taking the NGE route yet, because that was just handled poorly. I honestly don't think this affects any current SOE product but it's hard to say right now.

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Otis

I couldn't find a thread that you started with David Christensen's name in it.

There was this:

http://www.eq2flames.com/107531-post72.html

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Glad I did this last month

Pinski

They'd also have to change the pay model on EQ2 to match Maple Story so they could get 50 million people playing it. I mean, it costs $0 to play Maple Story, whereas it's $15 a month to play EQ2. A bit different there, not to mention Maple Story's EULA prohibits Player-to-Player RMT. But I guess if you think Maple Story is all about Player-to-Player RMT, then I guess you would try to come up with a great argument, too bad you failed.

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Talonis

The press release from Smed indicates they want to move to "an MMO without a subscription fee that has Station Exchange built into it". They see this as the natural evolution of MMO's. I guess it comes down to differing ideologies of next generation gamers and old-schoolers. Whether or not this gets applied to EQ2 before they finally flip off the respirator is certainly pure conjecture, but these guys are out to make money for the mothership; video gaming and the schmucks that line up to play are the vehicle. This game is practically (if not already) at the point of 'what do we have to lose'. Why wouldn't they implement all these SE-ish features now to tweak and play with them for SOE MMO-next? I think you overestimate the financial health of the game. My pessimism on the matter is only a guess, based on the temperature of the playerbase following the current ho-hum expansion and the manner in which it is being managed, implemented, and designed.

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Pheelin

what i have a question about is duel betting on pvE servers... in LON they dont allow you to bet cards in matches because they can be purchased with real money thus creating gambling... now what about duel betting you can put items and plat up for duel bets. are they going to disable one of their parts of the game so it wont be considered gambling?

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