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12-19-2007, 08:59 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Caswydian
No. This is no more a reasonable assumption that Age of Conan allowing RMT, since FunCom is also part of this partnership.
What we are seeing is SOE and other publishers getting in to position to introduce established alternatives to the subscription model to North America. SOE has already announced that FreeRealms will have no subscription and be funded through virtual item sales, so I strongly suspect that it will be the first game to take advantage of SOE's new deal. The Agency is also rumored to use virtual item sales, so I wouldn't be surprised if it uses this as well.
I do not know what FunCom or Acclaim are planning to do, but both are involved in addition to SOE.
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Funcom rep stated they plan to do this in a more casual MMO they are making, AoC wasn't mentioned.
What that does mean, I have no clue, not following AoC nor other Funcom products.
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12-19-2007, 09:36 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Jalathan
If forced RMT comes to EQ2, I'm gone. Plain and simple. I do not participate in LoN, in fact, I think it is down right dumb and refuse to spend any real money on it.
I like EQ2, but it isn't worth the headaches RMT brings.
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RMT is never forced, you kind of just sound dumb here.
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Originally Posted by Ily
Yeah, if they actually restructure all of EQ2 to accomodate RMT more easily, like taking no-trade tags away, or straight up selling some of the best gear you can, or can't obtain in game, I'll hang it up.
If it's restricted to Exchange servers, I dont give a fuck really.
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Ily. Do not be silly. They will not change the mechanics of the game to complement RMT. RMT is always desgined to compliment the game.
Seriously. go play Guild wars, or silkroad online and check out the item malls.
THAT is RMT.
Buying plat is as basic as it gets.
Real RMT games use item malls, item malls sell items that enhance the leveling process and cosmetic features. Maybe things like repair kits, AA respec, etc.
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Originally Posted by aduros
And why should my tax bracket have anything to do my with proficiency in game?
You sound like the stereotypical trustfund baby, whose had everything handed to him, and now expects the same in his video games. Sorry, but if thats what your looking for go load up Oblivion and ~tgm. Now you can have your god mode, and save a few hundred dollars.
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yup their are plenty of those on bazaar.
I sell plat to them, but you know... they ussualy give it right back when you start selling rotting raid loot.
The absolute truth is: No ammount of fabled gear will make you a better player.
This is typical human fear of change. That's all it is.
Why don't you try playing in a RMT enviroment then decide?
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12-19-2007, 09:55 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Rinion
The absolute truth is: No ammount of fabled gear will make you a better player.
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If the absolute max my weapon will hit for is 1300, no matter how skilled I may be at this game, its not going past 1300. The game uses the values on my equiptment and spells to determine my damage. For example: just swapping your chest piece out for The Respandant Robe of Battle, will boost an Assassin's ZW by 300-400 DPS.
Sure If I'm great at my class it and he's horrible I'll have a chance. But if he's at equal or slightly less skill than me, RMTing those fabled will put him above, while I earn mine through weeks/months of raiding.
Now even tho I may be a superior player, he's out parsing me because his gear is that much better. Gear that he bought (or hell even a whole character) through RMT.
No thanks.
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Last edited by aduros; 12-19-2007 at 10:07 AM.
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12-19-2007, 10:17 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
Well, people can improve their character through in game plat as well, should that be outlawed as well?
I mean, on my server, if a guild kills whomever, and they don't want the loot, they toss out a link and ask for bids. (Not just one guild, heck, I've been in raids that have done it) So, if the Axe of NYC Burrough Blasting drops, someone might buy it for 65pp, even though they as a character never did a thing to kill said mob in question.
I don't think it is the end of the free world as we know it if another character has the same/better loot than mine. I also think anyone who buys exoribant amounts of plat/items, is not going to be around very long anyway...I mean...exactly what are they going to do afterwards?
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12-19-2007, 10:27 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Sheya
Funcom rep stated they plan to do this in a more casual MMO they are making, AoC wasn't mentioned.
What that does mean, I have no clue, not following AoC nor other Funcom products.
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And since SOE has similar products in the works, isn't it reasonable to assume that is SOE's motive for doing this?
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12-19-2007, 10:29 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by aduros
If the absolute max my weapon will hit for is 1300, no matter how skilled I may be at this game, its not going past 1300. The game uses the values on my equiptment and spells to determine my damage. For example: just swapping your chest piece out for The Respandant Robe of Battle, will boost an Assassin's ZW by 300-400 DPS.
Sure If I'm great at my class it and he's horrible I'll have a chance. But if he's at equal or slightly less skill than me, RMTing those fabled will put him above, while I earn mine through weeks/months of raiding.
Now even tho I may be a superior player, he's out parsing me because his gear is that much better. Gear that he bought (or hell even a whole character) through RMT.
No thanks.
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You're right, and that is demonstrative of a fundamental weakness in item-centric PvP, regardless of the source of those items. The flaw here isn't with virtual item purchase or RMT, but with PvP designed around gear instead of player skill.
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12-19-2007, 10:30 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Manratten
Well, people can improve their character through in game plat as well, should that be outlawed as well?
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The purchase of plat using real money is. Theres nothing wrong with earning it.
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Originally Posted by Manratten
I mean, on my server, if a guild kills whomever, and they don't want the loot, they toss out a link and ask for bids. (Not just one guild, heck, I've been in raids that have done it) So, if the Axe of NYC Burrough Blasting drops, someone might buy it for 65pp, even though they as a character never did a thing to kill said mob in question.
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The majority of people earned the plat they have, not purchased it through RMT. So it's not the same. As long as you've earned it, theres nothing wrong with buying loot with plat. It's only when you start to throw real money into the equation.
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Originally Posted by Manratten
I don't think it is the end of the free world as we know it if another character has the same/better loot than mine. I also think anyone who buys exoribant amounts of plat/items, is not going to be around very long anyway...I mean...exactly what are they going to do afterwards?
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It will most likely spell the end of EQ2. Their subscriptions weak as is, this will just accelerate the process.
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Last edited by aduros; 12-19-2007 at 10:32 AM.
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12-19-2007, 10:35 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by aduros
If the absolute max my weapon will hit for is 1300, no matter how skilled I may be at this game, its not going past 1300. The game uses the values on my equiptment and spells to determine my damage. For example: just swapping your chest piece out for The Respandant Robe of Battle, will boost an Assassin's ZW by 300-400 DPS.
Sure If I'm great at my class it and he's horrible I'll have a chance. But if he's at equal or slightly less skill than me, RMTing those fabled will put him above, while I earn mine through weeks/months of raiding.
Now even tho I may be a superior player, he's out parsing me because his gear is that much better. Gear that he bought (or hell even a whole character) through RMT.
No thanks.
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oh and you know this all from experience?
Apparently you don't. you can't RMT fabled gear, not the good shit anyway.
No one sells Avatar loot on bazaar and it isn't possible to sell no-trade loot on SE.
The only way your made up scenario can happen is if the game mechanics radicly changed. They won't, not for RMT anyway.
Buying a whole new toon doesnt even count for your out of whack scenario. By the time any level 80 high end toons come up for sell your guild should already be raiding high end and gearing out.
You can't just buy a high end geared out toon instantly, it takes time for someone to do the gearing.
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Last edited by Rinion; 12-19-2007 at 10:40 AM.
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12-19-2007, 10:39 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by aduros
The majority of people earned the plat they have, not purchased it through RMT.
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LAWLZ
Plat farming asian corporations don't exist because they find 1 client per month.
The reason these companies are around and have the resources to spam entire servers....is because "the majority of people earn the plat they have"
yup.
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"Before one can identify anything as "gray", one has to know what is black and what is white. In the field of morality, this means that one must first identify what is good and what is evil. And when a man has ascertained that one alternative is good and the other evil, he has no justification for choosing a mixture. " Ayn Rand
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12-19-2007, 10:41 AM
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Didn't he quit?..again?
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Rinion
LAWLZ
Plat farming asian corporations don't exist because they find 1 client per month.
The reason these companies are around and have the resources to spam entire servers....is because "the majority of people earn the plat they have"
yup.
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Rinion shut up. He obviously knows everything about everything and if you don't know that yet you are a nobody! 
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