Jalathan

I'm not sitting around with blinders on, I simply do not support it. I avoid buying stuff from obvious botters, even if that means I pay more on the broker. I refuse to buy plat for a game I spend time in to RELAX and AVOID IRL pressures, which RMT introduces.

Right now, anyone who buys plat is cheating and as long as that is true, I'm ok being in the game, the day they sanction it for my server is the day I'm gone. Period.

Personally, I'm one of those who thinks it should be completely removed from the game (sanctioned or illegal) and have reported botters and want to see every damn one of them banned to the point it ISN'T profitable. Ban the buyers too, if you buy it, you are part of the problem and therefore need to be part of the solution.

Alas, this seems to be the wave of the future, but if it is, they won't have my money to support it.

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sarafan

Don't get me wrong I'm not some big fan of RMT but i'm a realist. It's here and it's not going anywhere. It can't be removed from the game anymore than drug use can be eradicated. Where there is demand there will be supply. The steps they would have to take to even try to remove it is a price you don't want to pay. The first time your account got banned because you unknowingly bought somthing from a farmer and you go weeks trying to prove your innocence cause CS is so backed up cause of all these claims it would be the end of you in this game along with all the others just like you.

You may not like exchange but it does just what those other measures don't. It takes the profit away from the farmers and puts it into the hands of the players. Consider it the lesser of 2 evils.

Jalathan

I don't subscribe to that concept of thought, I want it to be gone, not supported. If supported is what it will be, then my money won't be support it as I won't be playing those games.

It is a simple solution to me, if it comes, i go. If it doesn't, I'll stay. I like EQ2, but I will not be party to a game company supported RMT game, it simply grates against my fun factor. That doesn't count the other issues that MAY come up later (taxes, legal issues, etc) that aren't around yet.

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Gori

So exactly what the fuck is the difference between using a bot program to play unattended and using real life money to buy something you didn't "play" for? Well, except that SOE would get their cut I suppose.

I guess I should clarify, meaning from the acquisition point of view.

Sheya

Lathin english... ok, that's new.

Flaming Homo

I want the very concept of a player economy removed from MMOs. Kill mobs to get your gear and other items, rather than shopping on SOEbay.

Sheya

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Originally Posted by Sheya
To access it? Yeah. To win at it or to gain a big advantage? No.
If all you can get with money is a nice but useless dress-up, why bother implementing that crap? Everything will be purchasable: loot, zones to hunt in, special abilities, you name it. Fork the bucks or play like a noob on the island forever.




Ok, on exchange they may not be (loot is as a matter of fact), in other games they are, who told you they won't be implemented?

Off topic derail:

Since you played smartass, learn some real Lathin, you idiot, then quote other people mistakes, maybe you'll learn a little bit of history too, when you're done, fuck off please:

The correct sentence is Vae Victis and comes from a Book written by Livius, roman hystorian, the book is Ab Urbe Condita (Since the foundation of the City), the capital U is because it was referring to Roma or as you say in English, Rome.

The quote is this:

Inde inter Q. Sulpicium tribunum militum et Brennum regulum Gallorum conloquio transacta res est, et mille pondo auri pretium populi gentibus mox imperaturi factum. Rei foedissimae per se adiecta indignitas est: pondera ab Gallis allata iniqua et tribuno recusante additus ab insolente Gallo ponderi gladius, auditaque intoleranda Romanis vox, vae victis.

The Gauls owned Rome 3 centuries before Caesar taught them a lesson, they were just there to pillage the city and the surrounding areas.
Upon Rome defeat, the Gauls asked for 1000 pounds of gold as a price to go away.
Basically Livius (Livy in english) records that the Gauls provided steelyard and weights, and the Romans brought out their gold. But the Romans noticed that the weights were counterfeited, and dared to notify Brennus about the issue. Brennus took his sword, threw it on to the weights, and exclaimed: "Vae victis!", for the conquered have no rights, forcing the Romans to bring even more gold to fulfill their obligation.

The meaning is Woe to the defeated (or vanquished), where "victis" is the plural form. The pronounce is "Ve Vic-tis".

The only 2 cases where the form "Vae Victus" has been used are:

- a name of a special character of the Ultramarines in Warhammer 40k.
- in a videogame saga called Legacy of Kain.

In the singular form it would be "Vae Victo".

Uyaem

To the Bazaar-people and plat-selling on non-SE servers:
JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENS DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.
JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND CAN HARDLY BE GOTTEN RID OF DOESN'T MAKE ME LIKE & ACCEPT IT.

Also what you fail to realize about the so-called "non-SE servers that are already RMT":
Everything that is in the game came from the game. Every goddamn plat, every no-trade item, actually DROPPED. It's still somewhat a closed economic system. By just being able to spawn items out of thin air for real life money, you alter that system more than any plat spammer ever could.
Think of it as your government starting to print money because they don't have enough of it to afford this. The 1920s, anyone?
I'm not saying a system that is designed that way cannot "function", The Bazaar is proof. However you WILL radically influence a regular server if you force this onto them.

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Kelenvor

I'll make a deal with Sony. Provide us with a vote when we log into our accounts. If the majority of my server when some sort of RMT, then I'll shut up and accept it (not like it makes a huge fuckin difference with no-trade crap)

Otherwise, you are forcing this crap against our wishes under a false pretense of everyone does it.

sarafan

Take a look at my character name. Being it's from the game Legacy of Kain where do you think I got the guild name from?