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Old 12-19-2007, 08:42 PM  
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I'll make a deal with Sony. Provide us with a vote when we log into our accounts. If the majority of my server when some sort of RMT, then I'll shut up and accept it (not like it makes a huge fuckin difference with no-trade crap)

Otherwise, you are forcing this crap against our wishes under a false pretense of everyone does it.

Wasn't there a vote once upon a time asking if we wanted Station Exchange at all?
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:53 PM  
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I'll make a deal with Sony. Provide us with a vote when we log into our accounts. If the majority of my server when some sort of RMT, then I'll shut up and accept it (not like it makes a huge fuckin difference with no-trade crap)

Otherwise, you are forcing this crap against our wishes under a false pretense of everyone does it.
What are they forcing on anyone? Really, you are reading far too much into this. If SOE wanted to implement RMT on all their servers, they could - they've got a proven working system in the Exchange, so this latest partnership is not needed if that were their intent. Thus, I fail to see why this latest move is of any real concern to EQ2 players.
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Old 12-19-2007, 10:00 PM  
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I wonder if they'll give back the accounts of all the people they banned for buying plat if they institute it on live ... guaranteed customers, lol.
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I posted a question about this on the official general forums just to see if anyone was paying attention. It took less than 15 seconds from the time i posted before a moderator had removed it from the forums and sent me a private message telling me not to do it again. Suck it sony
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Old 12-20-2007, 12:16 AM  
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The guy asked why people played on exchange so I told him my reason for being on an exchange server. Notice that my reason had nothing to do with buy/selling anything.

And since you have an issue with reading comprehension there are people buying plat on YOUR server right now. Matter of fact plat is going for less than a dollar a plat on Crushbone right now, way cheaper than exchange rates.

IGE:
Gold 1,500
$14.15

Exchange:
15 Platinum
The Bazaar
$25.00
Buy Now @ $30.00


So enjoy that spam while all of your servermates are lining the pockets of IGE and the asian farmers. Damn rule breakers....

Oh and before I forget.... Go Fuck yourself
im sorry guy.. i dint mean to offend you.. but since you are in the mood to answer questions.. i have one for you .. if a fabled item drops and you konw you can make.. lets say.. uhmm 50 u$ but the guild could use.. what do you do? im almost sure that you would let the guild have it, but then again evryone in your guild made the concious choise to play in a SE server so they where aware before hand that such situations would arise , maybe they are there for that reason? to make some cash, and why not, but i dont play on SE server and dont want that type of situation to be part of my game time. making plat buying leagal wont end plat farmers they will always sell cheaper then SoE or players thus there will always be a market for them.. the only way to get rid of them IS to get rid of them.
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Seems kind of extreme.

My first thought is, if you actually feel that strongly about it, you are likely better off not playing whatsoever. I mean, we are talking about a game, last I checked. Now, likely you were making some silly over the top generalization, but you never know.

Of course...my guess is.....if someone offered you 1 million dollars for your in game plat, you send it to them in an instant. An instant.

i just like being able to say that and not have anyone argue about it being "ok" to cheat.. coz it's not.. and if ever it is ill probly stop playing.. it's like playing monopoly and stealing money.. the poeple who konw your stealing money dont have fun anymore and the one stealing money stops having fun as well .. it's a game.. NOT real life if you cheat then it becomes like irl amd no longer a "fantacy fun game" where lines are clearly drawn and one can log in to enjoy "make belive".. if you add IRL money into it.. then it's NO LONGER *make belive*..
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I can see it now, your ability to take down an epic mob will depend on how fast you can enter your credit card number, over and over again. Or perhaps SOE will give you another shot at a mob if you buy a /pizza.

"f you add IRL money into it.. then it's NO LONGER *make belive(sic)*.."

That is what it fundamentally boils down to as far as I am concerned. I play games to escape from reality, not extend it. If SOE can't figure out a way to make money without disrupting my ability to relax in an alternative universe then fuck them.

I have no problem making money in the real world. Fucking Calgon take me away.

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Old 12-20-2007, 05:00 AM  
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:43 AM  
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Ok, on exchange they may not be (loot is as a matter of fact), in other games they are, who told you they won't be implemented?
Common Sense told me.

They would make less money doing that. Do I need to explain why? Seriously?

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The only 2 cases where the form "Vae Victus" has been used are:

- a name of a special character of the Ultramarines in Warhammer 40k.
- in a videogame saga called Legacy of Kain.

In the singular form it would be "Vae Victo".
What an absolutely fucking GREAT SPEACH!
Ding ding ding We have a winner

The Reference is directly from Kain in the video game Legacy of Cain where he proclaims " Vae Victus: Woe to the conquered"

He purposely uses Victus BECAUSE HE IS A GOD DAMNED VAMPIRE and humans are the nourishment of his life force.

And Again:
Results for 'victus'
Latin - English
victus - living, manner of life / nourishment, food.
(there I added - so you wouldn't get confused again)
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Take a look at my character name. Being it's from the game Legacy of Kain where do you think I got the guild name from?
Well he is either not that smart or just never played it. I think the former of the two choices.

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Lathin english... ok, that's new.
Again, moron.

it was a cut and paste. Latin - English showing the Latin word Victus and then the English translation.

Your idiocy astounds me.
Quit being a fucking retard with your off topic bullshit, it serves only to taint any credibility you had to begin with.
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:01 AM  
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Wasn't there a vote once upon a time asking if we wanted Station Exchange at all?
they did make a compromise. can't transfer off.

However I think they need to go one step further. Make it so people can't Transfer onto SE either.

I'd rather not my server be a garbage dump for Hypocrits when they get ready to quit and sell.

let um use accounts.net instead.
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:19 AM  
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Rinion makes an excellent point here I think:

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However I think they need to go one step further. Make it so people can't Transfer onto SE either.

I'd rather not my server be a garbage dump for Hypocrits when they get ready to quit and sell.
I've seen alot of people here moaning and groaning that RMT is the sign of the apocalypse. "I'm gonna quit, I'm not playing, doesn't belong", that kind of thing. Now, here is an absolutely typical example pointed out by Rinion, by one of the most active posters on these boards. (Might be fun to try and guess who said it)

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I've said it once, and I'll say it again. The day SOE makes official RMT transactions possible in any form like Station Exchange on the non-SE servers, or allows it through a licensed 3rd party seller such as the one linked by the OP, is the day I cancel my accounts and never again play a SOE game.
Then, that same person, when apparently about to quit.....

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So, who thinks I should just sell all my PVE toons on Station Exchange, to open up character slots so I can rebuild my dynasty on Nagafen?
See, THAT is how you take your stand against RMT. You elect to use it!! I guess what he really meant to say was, he wouldn't quit that day, he'd quit the day after he finalized selling his accounts.
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