SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales - Page 37

Flaming Homo · 12-20-2007, 12:24 PM

How 'bouts if they give us just one server where absolutely nothing can be traded between players, other than insults?

Thundaarr · 12-20-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sarafan

Some? You think "some" are the ones making the profits of a billion $ industry? Why do you think plat is cheaper to buy on your server than on an exchange server where it is "legal"? Cause only "some" on your non-exchange server are buying?
Wake the fuck up you dumbass.

The majority of the people around you are "closet" plat buyers. The plat farmers aren't there for fun, they are there for profit and if there are no buyers there is no profit. You don't cut your prices in half when business is just good. You cut it when you are moving it in bulk. That why the exchange prices are double what the plat farmers charge. Cause it's players selling the small amounts they get. Not the work of a room full of malnourished asians grinding plat to feed themself.

Sanctioned or not it is happeneing and you are sitting around with blinders on.

Yeah.. that drop in price couldn't have anything, ANYTHING to do with the fact that RoK provided a massive influx of plat into the economy, thus de-valuing it.

And so let me get this straight... you're basic arguement is that since RMT is already going on on live servers, illegally, that we should just allow it to happen? I mean I guess there are people selling many goods and services that are against the law, but we should let them get away with it too, right? I mean according to your logic, crack should be legal, because there is obviously a market out there, and no one is ever going to win the war on drugs, so we should just tax it and then at least the government will make the profits instead of the crack dealer...wow I guess I can't argue with such airtight logic such as that !

Gaige · 12-20-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Thundaarr

I mean according to your logic, crack should be legal, because there is obviously a market out there, and no one is ever going to win the war on drugs, so we should just tax it and then at least the government will make the profits instead of the crack dealer...wow I guess I can't argue with such airtight logic such as that !

Logic?

WTF do you know about logic?

You're comparing selling illegal drugs that kill people to a videogame?

Selling crack != spending money on your hobby.

FFS.

Thundaarr · 12-20-2007, 01:10 PM

There have been documented cases of videogames killing people as well. I'm playing devils advocate there, but it's true. Some studies have been done trying to show that videogames are an "Addiction" and similar to a drug.

If your hobby happens to be smoking crack, then yes you're spending money on your hobby.

And... for you the intelligence impaired, I will break down as I would to someone in kindergarten the parallel. See sometimes us grown ups will bring up something that is seemingly unrelated to the original topic, but if you look closer, you can draw a parallel.

RMT currently exists on all servers, illegally on most
Sales of crack currently exist in all states of the country, illegally in all

There has been a series of attempts to slow or halt RMT on all servers, most notably the opening of the station exchange servers, a place where if you wish to be someone who purchases in game items for RL money, you can.

There has been a long "War on drugs" with a series of attempts to halt or slow the use of crack cocaine in this country.

Now.... remember how I told you that grown ups sometimes draw parallels between things that aren't really related?

This is one of those times. I'm not saying that videogames are crack, that crack is a good thing, or that RMT will cause the fall of civilasation as we know it. But I don't feel that just because something is happening, that you should condone it or cash in on it.

I don't think that a majority of the gaming populace would sit idly by and go "Oh well, if you can't beat em, join em"

Giving up is not in a lot of gamers natures, if it was then raid mobs would never get defeated. Most of us would prefer to just leave the game if something like this happens, myself included.

Gaige · 12-20-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thundaarr

But I don't think that a majority of the gaming populace would sit idly by and go "Oh well, if you can't beat em, join em"

Giving up is not in a lot of gamers natures, if it was then raid mobs would never get defeated. Most of us would prefer to just leave the game if something like this happens.

Pretty sure you're wrong. RMT is accepted without a second thought all over (and even clamored for).

Here with LON, on Xbox Live with DLC, in Second Life, in WoW with their TCG with special ingame rewards.

I don't think they'd sit idly by either, I think most of them would be spending their newfound plat fortune they got as soon as RMT became legal on their server.

Jalathan · 12-20-2007, 01:18 PM

you'd be wrong in my case. Oh well.

I do not accept RMT and I do not participate in Lon (never spent a penny on it and while I DID attempt the tutorials, I didn't even get out of them before I gave up on it). If I wanted to play a card game, I'd break out my M:TG stuff and play against my IRL friends, it is more fun anyways. I do not participate on the SE server nor would I sell a toon on it for any price (nor would I buy one).

Do I know people who have? Yah, and I lost a bit of respect for them when I found out.

Thundaarr · 12-20-2007, 01:21 PM

I'm actually one of the few that are upset with LoN having ANY items in game that effect anything. Carpets with runspeed, cloaks with waterbreathing, and other such items imo should never come from something that is supposed to be a standalone client. If they wanna play pokemon online, I say let them, but I never want someone who dumped RL cash into booster packs to have an item in game that I cannot earn, be it through quest or kill.

On a PvP server I would be even more pissed. Anyone with one of the LoN carpets or wargs is essentially recieving a tangible, in game, bonus beyond what they have earned through whatever means available in game. I refuse to by any LoN booster packs. I don't hate the card game, and being on a blue server I could really care less that someone has a special carpet or mount, as it doesn't effect my gameplay. It's just that I prefer to travel to new lands, meet new and interesting monsters, and kill them for their stuff

Gaige · 12-20-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Thundaarr

I never want someone who dumped RL cash into booster packs to have an item in game that I cannot earn, be it through quest or kill.

Booster packs drop in game so you can get them by killing and you can purchase them on the broker.

So your point there isn't really relevant.

Thundaarr · 12-20-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Booster packs drop in game so you can get them by killing and you can purchase them on the broker.

So your point there isn't really relevant.

Touche`

Rinion · 12-20-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch0n

Why should an RMT buyer actually prefer spending his cash in China and risk getting banned for his purchase, AND exposed to prat spam, as opposed to simply rolling on the X server?

For the simple convience of being able to transfer.

Mater of fact see Gaige's post. I saw it after i did this. He explained it very well. It's on page 36.

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Loud? Do you think I've been flaming you or something?

Negative. it was not an attack on you, in general their are far more people speaking out against RMT then supporting it and many do not support it openly because it would expose them to persecusion and I don't blame them for remaining silent.