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Old 12-21-2007, 12:04 AM  
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people in favor of RMT = bunch of loosers looking forward to making money of the game they play.


people against RMT= gamers who enjoy playing the game and dislike blatant cheating (have jobs).

and for any dumbfucks out there that think that RMT will some how give more money to the game.. your a retard.. the lions share of that money will be used to make more money in other money making scheems..

i knew i liked this community(eq2flames) when i saw this http://www.eq2flames.com/farmers-almanac/ i fuking hate my game time being disturbed by low lifes trying to make a buck i deal with that enuff IRL..

as far as the people who sell their toons.. waht ever.. it's fine the way it is now.. send the toons to another server.. and if they decide to go thru with this RMT thing.. they fucking better make a non RMT server .. or they will LOOSE players.. you might say they will gain players willing to spend money and that those players are better than the players that they will loose.. but in this your thinking is amiss since those players not willing to invest time and effort into a hobby/past time will do just that. play for few days/weeks maybe months then move on to another pseudo hobby/past time they can cheat to win over honest players in.

edit. i dont have a problem with selling toons or buying plat as long as it is done in a server where that is accepted/legal. i DO have a problem with MY non ES server being turned into ant RMT server. since i have no desire what so ever to use money to advance my toons or make money from my game time and want to play with like minded people.

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Old 12-21-2007, 06:41 AM  
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Ok, so I came to the thread a bit late, and honestly didnt wind up reading the whole thing, but 20 or 30 pages back there was mention that this might not even impact EQ2... I went to take a look at the livegamer website and if that graphic on the homepage isnt a picture of their UI plastered on top of a sceenshot of nettleville hovel in Qeynos then it sure is damn close.
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:46 AM  
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Ok, so I came to the thread a bit late, and honestly didnt wind up reading the whole thing, but 20 or 30 pages back there was mention that this might not even impact EQ2... I went to take a look at the livegamer website and if that graphic on the homepage isnt a picture of their UI plastered on top of a sceenshot of nettleville hovel in Qeynos then it sure is damn close.
And since EQ2 already has legitimate RMT servers, it's possible that SOE is using this software to improve the Exchange servers?

If SOE wanted all their servers to be Exchange-enabled, they would have done so. They do not need to partner with this other company. However, if they want to improve upon their capacity for RMT and Virtual Item Sales for future games, and bring more standardization and oversight to the industry, a partnership of this sort makes perfect sense.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:30 AM  
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And since EQ2 already has legitimate RMT servers, it's possible that SOE is using this software to improve the Exchange servers?

If SOE wanted all their servers to be Exchange-enabled, they would have done so. They do not need to partner with this other company. However, if they want to improve upon their capacity for RMT and Virtual Item Sales for future games, and bring more standardization and oversight to the industry, a partnership of this sort makes perfect sense.
Dude, seriously, read what you typed here.

What brings you to this conclusion? Seriously what outside stimulus caused you to deduce the above opinion? Because what is written, and what you present as the reasoning behind your conclusions, makes very little sense.

Here's a hint for you, it's biased. The truth is, you don't know anything more than anyone else here. Why paint yourself into such a corner?

Answer one question for me:

What is stopping SOE from implementing RMT on non-exchange servers?

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Old 12-21-2007, 10:20 AM  
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Answer one question for me:

What is stopping SOE from implementing RMT on non-exchange servers?

SOE knows that by and large the population of the non-SE servers has no desire for SE services to be implemented on those servers, so they'd lose quite a bit of business if they were to convert existing servers to SE servers.
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SOE knows that by and large the population of the non-SE servers has no desire for SE services to be implemented on those servers, so they'd lose quite a bit of business if they were to convert existing servers to SE servers.
Yeah, just like by and large people hate LoN spam.
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:41 AM  
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SOE knows that by and large the population of the non-SE servers has no desire for SE services to be implemented on those servers, so they'd lose quite a bit of business if they were to convert existing servers to SE servers.

Excellent! See? That wasn't so hard.

So you're saying SOE wouldn't take a chance on implementing changes to a fairly successful MMO that could possibly drive away a large portion of the player base in the hopes of attracting what, in the long run would be an even larger player base?
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:48 AM  
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Answer one question for me:

What is stopping SOE from implementing RMT on non-exchange servers?
Nothing. they already did. It's called LON.
The next logical step is adding a item mall, for things like exp potions, respec cards, wands of forgivness, and various cosmetic goods.
But, honestly I dont think any other servers will ever be station exchange enabled.

The fuckers do need to bring shadowhaven back tho. Vox is bullshit. 3 SE servers to transfer between would be ideal and generate a larger income and most definatly a larger population.
People leave SE all the time simply becasue they only have a choice of 1 - 3 raid guilds which may not even be recruiting. Just like any other EQ2 server only 1 or 2 ever exist at the top at any given time.
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Excellent! See? That wasn't so hard.

So you're saying SOE wouldn't take a chance on implementing changes to a fairly successful MMO that could possibly drive away a large portion of the player base in the hopes of attracting what, in the long run would be an even larger player base?
More or less, yeah. SOE won't risk EQ2 because the population by and large would reject officially sanctioned RMT. However, that does not mean SOE will not pursue RMT in various forms on other games in development. We know the virtual item purchase business model can be very successful, and SOE seems to be willing to try that out with FreeRealms.
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:58 AM  
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More or less, yeah.
I see.

Has SOE ever implemented such changes to a popular MMO in the past?
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