SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales - Page 42

Rinion · 12-21-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Otis

I see.

Has SOE ever implemented such changes to a popular MMO in the past?

RMT changes? no.

but their was that pesky NGE change...

honestly such changes happening over night is almost always going to end badly.

if RMT is the vision of the future for EQ2 it should be a gradual change. Simply add more SE enabled servers, don't change the ones they have.

Again, Just having an option between 2 or 3 servers would increase SE population greatly IMO. Its the major reason people quit SE just so they have the option to transfer. Only one or two top guilds exist per a server and what if the ones on SE arent recruiting? your screwed.

Btw i take it back, the next logical step isnt to add a item mall. Its to add those items to LON, they'll make more money that way.

Otis · 12-21-2007, 11:07 AM

I do not mean RMT, no.

Thundaarr · 12-21-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rinion

The fuckers do need to bring shadowhaven back tho. Vox is bullshit. 3 SE servers to transfer between would be ideal and generate a larger income and most definatly a larger population.
People leave SE all the time simply becasue they only have a choice of 1 - 3 raid guilds which may not even be recruiting. Just like any other EQ2 server only 1 or 2 ever exist at the top at any given time.

Umm... didn't they contract the SE servers because of low population? What would make you think that bringing back another SE server would make the population jump? If they brought back the PvP server that they merged, would that make the PvP population suddenly jump back up?

aduros · 12-21-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fortune

Yeah Im sure most people would agree with you so let me outline it a little more before Im done with this...

From a P&L stand point EQ2 is in big big trouble. E-commerce is the only bright future I see for eq2... Subscriptions are on the decline and this is after a major expansion which saw a burst subscription rate of somewhere close to 11 percent... that also includes all trials ect...

What I mean when I say eq2 is dieing is it cannot exist the way it is now or more cuts will have to happen.. If they happen I can tell you right now I will have no interest in staying on as the content will suffer... With the recent cash cow (SE) suffering and more strigent tax situations arising in regards to SE.. not to mention the rampant fraud... well lets just say the people that are actually effected by all of this are starting to really feel the pressure... E-commerce could give them in theory more money a month than 350k additional subscribers believe it or not with NO OVER HEAD COST to them directly... well take a wild guess and what that means for eq2? Now onto whats happeneing in regards to all of this... Well for one the department that basically runs devolpment game mechanics tied directly to QA has a very horrid check and balance system with no outside PR check of any kind... There is a system in place to actually track and check this kind of thing but those same people that could say I dont know.. cheat the system by generating characters or plat have access to manipulating those same mechanics.. I mean come on who runs buisness that way??

By now anyone on SE knows there is a very real problem with buying and selling plat and characters and there new "Fraud Prevention" system has locked down 95 percent of current sales... Its basically a shut down of SE withouth bringing down the site... SE has kept sony from really feeling the hurt and now the very system that they have been making a very good profit margin on is also in jeopardy all becuase of internal BS which they apparently cant manage even now...

Anyway its on its way to true crisis.. sure livegamer has a very real shot at saving it which is why no real research was done to even impact how it would effect the player base if they actually do decide to enable every server (Which honestly may be a very real possibility)...

This is off topic though the only reason why the guild was allowed to transfer goes back to this very real problem of sloppy management...

If you believe what this person has to say, it looks like Livegamer has a very real possibility of hitting EQ2.

Caswydian · 12-21-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aduros

If you believe what this person has to say, it looks like Livegamer has a very real possibility of hitting EQ2.

I'd like to see the source for any subscription info. So far as I know, SOE has not released any official subscription numbers and has been traditionally tight-lipped about anything of that nature. Lots of people speculate, of course, but so far, verifiable information is hard to come by.

aduros · 12-21-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fortune

Im going to say this now as there is no longer any means to keep it hidden. Im not going to offer up any kind of proof and I probably wont even respond to much but SOE EQ2 IS DIEING...

First off all servers or more than just SE for now are going e-commerce... eq2 is not nearly as profitable as the greater unbrella feels it needs to be... There is a huge witchhunt going on inside soe and honestly the management there is so disconnected they will probably never do whats necisaary to fix any of it.... The reason those fucktards were allowed to move is becuase internally soe is sloppy and getting sloppier... If you had any idea how much fruad SE has been hit with for the last 6 months you would honestly wonder why it wasnt simply shut down completely....

Scott leaves Sony gets desprate with livegamer and interanlly dipshits are allowed to run amock and trasnfer people from test to live.. Dupe plat and sell it on exchange through other players for profit... the list goes on and on....

I mean seriously what kind of fucking horrific buisness model beats this... I cant think of a single game that has so much negative PR across there player base .. wait maybe I can.. starwars galaxies...

SOE has a very real very serious problem and it lies with how it manages itself internally... EQ2 is already hurting big time on subs.... How many repeated faliures is it going to take???

Btw and I mean this.. Lucky you make me want to transfer to Unrest and kick your ass... So lucky I have some friends internally too btw.. If the person/s involved werent already fired for what they did I'm going to take all of your posts from here and make you the poster child for why action needs to be taken... GL on your drop rates...

If he's telling the truth, it looks like he has an inside source, so I don't think theres much speculation on his part.

Otis · 12-21-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Caswydian

... and has been traditionally tight-lipped about anything of that nature.

Not always. At least not when numbers were good.

Poor Caswydian, I think he's in for an eye-opening experience in the not-too-distant future. Someone may want to hide all the sharp objects on him - lol.

I kinda have a soft spot for you Cas - I think it's because you remind me of Dwight Schrute

Caswydian · 12-21-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Otis

Not always. At least not when numbers were good.

Poor Caswydian, I think he's in for an eye-opening experience in the not-too-distant future. Someone may want to hide all the sharp objects on him - lol.

I kinda have a soft spot for you Cas - I think it's because you remind me of Dwight Schrute

SOE has never released any official numbers for EQ2, and I've seen people posting doom and gloom scenarios about EQ2 for the past 3 years, but SOE doesn't seem to be slowing down in the slightest.

You also assume that I have some huge personal investment in EQ2. I enjoy the game, and give the SOE devs the same generosity and respect I give the devs from any other game. Overall, I think they are trying to make the best game they can, and while they make mistakes, they are not out to screw over anyone or intentionally harm their game. I am really at a loss as to why this position is seen as being so radical or extreme, but perhaps the MMO community is just that polarized and bitter...

Regardless, I've played many other games, and I suppose one day I'll move on from EQ2. Maybe it will be to another SOE game, maybe it won't, I don't know at this point, but for the time being, I enjoy playing EQ2.

Savanja · 12-21-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aduros

If he's telling the truth, it looks like he has an inside source, so I don't think theres much speculation on his part.

lol. He has an inside source does he? I don't see a word of that as being close to anything I've heard. Haha.

Otis · 12-21-2007, 03:56 PM

Sav, is Crimson Tempest an all woman guild.

Sounds like it: "Beware the crimson tempest!"