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12-23-2007, 04:37 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Smed
I've been a regular lurker on this site for a while but I wanted to step in here and dispel something that's just plain not true - I don't have my name highlighted here, but anyone that doubts it's me can email me at jsmedley@soe.sony.com and I'll happily reply.
We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. If we catch people, we ban them and have been for a long time now. The truth of the matter is it's very difficult to combat them, but we have people at SOE who fight the good fight each and every day. In the near future you're going to see us becoming a lot more public about this then we ever have been. I think we've done a bad job at communicating just how seriously we take this fight.
We're interested in working with LiveGamer because they are unique in the RMT world due to the fact that they are pledging (and are putting technology behind it) to not buy from farmers. Farmers are the bane of our existence at SOE. They cause us endless amounts of grief and do real financial damage in a meaningful way.
What do I mean by that?
Many of them use stolen credit cards, obtained by unsuspecting users who give them credit card #'s to purchase in-game gold. I'm not saying all of the RMT shops out there use stolen credit cards, but a LOT of them do. Your credit card is absolutely not safe in their hands.
In addition we recieve large scale (over $500k so far) fines for chargebacks that these scumbag farmers routinely do. They purchase a new account.. use it for a month and then call the credit card company to say "I never paid for this". Over time, as the # of these incidents rise we get fined by the credit card companies. And it's not just us, other large MMO companies are seeing exactly the same problem.
In any event, I wanted to stop in and at least set the record straight - you aren't going to be seeing RMT allowed on the non-exchange enabled servers.
John Smedley
President, Sony Online Entertainment
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Originally Posted by LFG
Thanks a ton for this very powerful and definite statement against RMT on the regular servers.
I'm very satisfied with this statement.
Thank you again.
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LFG, despite our fallings out..... I think you finally entered the major league Arena.
Smed, thanks for answering, and while I don't agree with your views on LON and RMT, I appreciate you coming here....
I think an easy fix would be to make LON platinum purchases only, no RMT(real money transactions) but that's just me....I don't like involving real money into it....but again, thanks for registering and commenting.
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12-23-2007, 05:06 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Rinion
so the sky isnt falling!?
amazing.
see! over reacting.
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Originally Posted by mania
Amazing indeed isn't it.
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It's isn't overreacting if there is nothing to refute the plausible claim made.
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Oh shit I just had a memwipe, why is retarded uncle Roger still designing raids for this game again?
Some players might bot against encounters but it seems like he bots the encounter design!
Last edited by Illuminator; 12-23-2007 at 05:07 AM.
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12-23-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by kyros
Smed's Fist of Justice hits YOU for 9,136,276 points of divine damage.
You have died.

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Wow, I can believe how naive some of you are. Is this your first time dealing with business? Do you always take what the seller has to say at face value? "OMG Smed sed it wont happen, so it must be troo!"
It's not like SoE has switched stances midway through before, right? Personally, I'm gonna sit back and watch what enfolds next year, before I take Smed's word as gospel.
I would love to sell some of you a car, if all it takes is my word that it wont break down.
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They teach evolution and offer "liberal" arts degrees!!
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12-23-2007, 06:37 PM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
Yah, I'm happy to see the statement, but I also remember when he said that Vanguard wasn't going to be controlled by SoE and lo and behold, Vanguard is now owned by SoE. Never mind the brohaha dealing with the CU/NGE mess.
I'm a believe it when I see it type of person when it comes to SoE.
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12-23-2007, 10:11 PM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by aduros
Wow, I can believe how naive some of you are. Is this your first time dealing with business? Do you always take what the seller has to say at face value? "OMG Smed sed it wont happen, so it must be troo!"
It's not like SoE has switched stances midway through before, right? Personally, I'm gonna sit back and watch what enfolds next year, before I take Smed's word as gospel.
I would love to sell some of you a car, if all it takes is my word that it wont break down.
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It doesn't. The bottom line is, if something pisses you off, you can cancel your account. For now, I deal with what I have seen, and I have seen ALOT of crazy wildfire stories going around. Someone stepped and said it wasn't so. Does this make it true? No.. However, the sky STILL is not falling, because you can easily choose to move your fucking ass on. Its not like your fucking wife/husband/mother/best sister ever died. Stop acting like this is the reaping and your firstborn is going next.
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12-23-2007, 10:18 PM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
It sounds to me like a bunch of 7 year old boys are telling ghost stories in the treehouse again "I hear old man Smedleys house is haunted, and that 3 years ago, he ate billy lumburgers cousin who was visiting from ohio! Every year at halloween you can hear the screams of 1,000 banned players screaming from the depths of his basement, where he keeps their souls"
Not that some of these stories aren't interesting, and gettin in bed with the RMT's doesn't sit well with me. But all you can do is take Smed's word for it for the time being. All of these rumors that the sky is falling serve no one any good though.
Of course the part of Smed having the souls of 1,000 banned players is true though, I know a kid who says his cousins-best friends- brother saw it once
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12-23-2007, 10:59 PM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by aduros
Wow, I can believe how naive some of you are. Is this your first time dealing with business? Do you always take what the seller has to say at face value? "OMG Smed sed it wont happen, so it must be troo!"
It's not like SoE has switched stances midway through before, right? Personally, I'm gonna sit back and watch what enfolds next year, before I take Smed's word as gospel.
I would love to sell some of you a car, if all it takes is my word that it wont break down.
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wow. i can't believe how little of a sense of humor you have.
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12-24-2007, 02:57 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Smed
We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. If we catch people, we ban them and have been for a long time now. The truth of the matter is it's very difficult to combat them...
John Smedley
President, Sony Online Entertainment
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Bullshit. I see the same fucking farm teams in the same fucking zones all the fucking time. What are you saying? That everyone at SOE is so fucking retarded they can't spot farmers like the rest of us?
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12-24-2007, 03:16 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Flaming Homo
Bullshit. I see the same fucking farm teams in the same fucking zones all the fucking time. What are you saying? That everyone at SOE is so fucking retarded they can't spot farmers like the rest of us?
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I've heard good things about petitioning them.
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