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12-18-2007, 11:32 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
This Forum Post is the reason SOE DOESNT anounce shit anymore when it comes to nerfing or anything as such. All people do is bitch piss whine and moan about it....
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12-18-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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This Forum Post is the reason SOE DOESNT anounce shit anymore when it comes to nerfing or anything as such. All people do is bitch piss whine and moan about it....
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And if they don't announce it, when it happens there's still people bitching about it. So, wouldn't it be better to get all the bitching out BEFORE it happens so they can understand WHY people are against it?
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12-18-2007, 11:37 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Snark
The issue here is one of integrity. Simply saying that sony is grabbing onto market trends etc. is irrelevant. Savanja, your fan-site bias is spewed all over this thread, and while your opinion is appreciated, repeating it is not.
Maintaining a moral stance in a game does cost money. Backing up promises does cost money. But are these things as important as their potential income? I guess not.
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Your right becuase i am sure you have no friends or ex guild memebers who decided to sell their toon on station exchange. Every person who sold a toon, plays on exchange, bought plat on live, or decided to quit and cash out ha sbeen supporting this idea for a long time. It is not exactly like station exchange failed now did it.
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12-18-2007, 11:43 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Fomka
Yeah I agree here. For all - Stop being paranoic and think for a second. People will be able to buy plat, items, etc... You can do it now too if you want, but it's just illegal. People will be able to buy/sell toons... Anyone can do it now even if they dont want to transfer their characters to SE server.
I dont understand why some ppl canceling their accounts because of this minor change.
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You want to see m1s for 1k+? You`ll get it if RMT will be legal everywhere.
Basicaly: ppl will farm m1s, sell them for plat, and then sell plat to thoose who buy m1s. In some time you`ll get game where you buy plat or suck.
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12-18-2007, 11:43 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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It doesnt affect me at all.
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If you plan on keeping to buy/sell via the broker, it will affect you.
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12-18-2007, 11:43 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
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Originally Posted by Otis
You know, it's funny. All the people in this thread who are ready to embrace this as a "step forward" by SOE, are the same cocksuckers who called everyone who questioned SOE's hiring of that RMT site executive a while back "conspiracy theorist whackos".
Suck my dick.
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and dont forget everyone who flipped shit about LoN. LoN would have been completely fine if they would not have integrated it with EQ2 items. the moment they did that, it became RMT. LoN taught them people will buy items, useless items, for crazy amounts of money. People were buying boxes upon boxes of boosters for items that were cosmetic. This really showed SOE the power of RMT sales.
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Originally Posted by Gori
Wouldn't a next step be for SOE to authorize the RMT company to sell "no trade" items directly? I could honestly see that happening, skip the micro-transactions and go straight for the big dollars. Would have to be pricey enough to discourage very many from entering the market, but cheap enough so they moved a few pieces.
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i would see them creating a new set of items that you could only buy through RMT.
It really is to early to tell if this means its going to live servers or just partnering/managemnt of the current exchange servers. Nevertheless, this does have impacts on economies whether it affects the supply or demand side. Depending upno how the market reacts you could see huge amounts of inflation to the point people wont take plat for anyhting, or deflation hoping someone will actually pay plat instead of $$$ for items, thus rendering plat useless as well.
But it it does go to live servers the comment iv'e had as my sig since LoN is pretty close to dead on.
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12-18-2007, 11:45 AM
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Call me Jude.
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
No, but that's in an environment in which everyone agreed to those terms.
Thanks but no thanks, I'll go take my business elsewhere. 15$ a month from one person doesn't mean shit, but I know quite a few other people will be pissed enough to leave as well.
It's not that I don't have the money to spend on this game -- god knows, I do -- it's the fact that, when the SE was created, we were assured that it would stay at those two servers.
And yes, Sony is a huge corporation that spans many games, but guess what; EQ2 is its largest. I don't see any reason that they'd offer this service on any other game. I'm not saying the game will fail because of it, but the community will definitely change quit a bit, as I'm sure most people are against this.
No reason for them not to, at this point, really; the game is dying, and they need to cash out in order to prepare for their next big project.
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12-18-2007, 11:46 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
Oh and btw everyone RMT is not illegal. i hate when people say that.
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12-18-2007, 11:48 AM
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Re: SOE Licenses 3rd Party RMT Company for In Game Virtual Property Sales
There are a number of advantages to having an authorized company to handle these types of transactions:
1: Setting a legal precedent for making RMT based transactions ILLEGAL for unauthorized sites. Not merely "against the unenforceable EULA" but ILLEGAL.
2: Customer service resources that are devoted to investigating all of the people who are being screwed over by unauthorized third party companies can actually be freed up to address your pressing in game issues. This will improve the quality of service the average player receives.
3: If there is a real deal site that buyers can depend on, people are more likely to buy there. If this destroys overseas companies, you get less spam. Less spam also increases customer service resources.
For those of you who will quit because of this action, you will likely not be able to experience the benefits that ensue...personally, I play the game because I enjoy the content, not because I have to be superior to other people.
If you want to fight for a moral cause, how about going after something that actually matters...maybe something not centered around a video game?
Think about what you're saying..."oh my god now people can buy stuff better than mine instead of earn it! Oh noes!...but wait...people can get stuff better than mine for free if they are in a better guild...Oh noes!...but wait...people have already been able to buy plat from Asia for years...but dammit I'm pissed and I'll quit if they don't make people have to grind for hours on end to get their stuff, cuz otherwise my life has been meaningless since I spend an unhealthy number of hours per week playing this game!"
Please, please quit the game and try doing something with your time that actually matters if the biggest thing rocking your world is a company trying to make money and free up its CS resources. I'm sure there are plenty of you with spouses or family that wish you would quit anyways. Seriously.
RMT *is* the way gaming has gone and is going to continue to go...and even your golden calf blizzard is inundated with RMT via companies who legitimately farm their gold via labor exploitation...the players are getting what they want regardless of whether the company condones the activity or chooses to participate in it.
I tend to liken the situation to the U.S. regulation of gambling...while some complain it is merely the government "getting their share"...prior to that regulation there was rampant abuse and corruption in that environment, which obviously ate a lot of local and federal government resources in terms of police investigations.
I'm not going to take the stance and say "morals don't matter"...in an ideal world the company could completely control its gaming environment and its players...but it simply is not possible without stripping the many fundamentals that make the game socially addictive.
Call it what you will...this step is tantamount to regulation, and while there is a financial benefit to it (which I think is acceptable anyways), it has the potential to bring down the abuse and increase resources (cash and manpower), which will make a difference in the quality of the content in the long run.
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