Balbasur

just stop bitching for real soe president is a good guy i'm sure he does every thing for a reason just sit back and relax

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Exeugi

I wonder if you would be saying those exact same words had you not be un-banned.

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Uh, hi?

Cloverfield still owns, fyi.

aduros

Your "autistic brother" tell you that?

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Flight

As is human nature, you are consistently ignoring my core point, which is based around not the ability of the SoE devs and game designers, but the ability of their managers, project managers and QA. Thats because this industry is incestuous and hardly recruits from outside of friends, employees and other MMORPG companies.

Blizzard didn't. The competence of Blizzard, in this respect, is by far the largest factor in the success of WoW, a fact which seems to have passed by the majority of the industry.



The quote above I've chosen because I think you've made a great point. Smed has done an incredibly clever thing in buying failing MMORPGs. At first sight, it looks a dumb move, because there is little chance to turn around the games he has brought on board. The genius in this is not the games. Its that he gets to cherry pick the most able people working on those projects and keep them on, integrating them into the SoE way of doing things. In terms of recruitment in an industry that has a massive shortage of skilled workforce, its genius. Medium to long term, is when it will pay off; its still a very young industry.


But, and this is a huge but, it will only pay off if they start recruiting the best people they can find, from outside the industry, in the areas I underlined. The middle and senior management need to face up to their insecurities and employ people better qualified than they are.


If they put that sort of management structure in place, with the quality of staff they have, the future would be massive for them. Once they are thinking outside of the box there, they can start to think outside of the box on their product. Hook into a franchise which would get bigger numbers than WoW. Something like Pokemon, I shit you not. Pokemon MMORPG - I choose you.


Theres an MMORPG thats been in development for well over two years, which is going well under the radar and hardly anyone is even aware of. I believe its going to be the industries third big success, after EQ1 and WoW; in fact if they embrace the PC interface and get the balance right between solo and party play, it could get higher numbers than WoW. Its the only other company than Blizzard that has the sort of management capability I'm talking about. Some folks may laugh, but I'm talking about the next Final Fantasy MMORPG.

aduros

I'd hit it.

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dawy

I'd agree with you about the first 2 expansions they where utter crap But EoF for me at least was the best expansion i've played in any MMO from the off,yes it got better as time went on but that was a bonus.

As for RoK it does nothing for me at all it just doesnt feel "done" in the way EoF was,its like an ommlette thats under done you're hungry so you'll eat it but boy do you regret it later on,for me at least the game at the moment does seem to be a little directionless and it needs to be grabbed by the balls and thrown into the right direction for all of us.

Ouchy Dathurts

This thread is a gold mine. But I can't help but want to put Cas' face thru a plate glass window.

Caswydian

People make this claim all the time, but this seems to be more based on their willingness to overlook various issues with WoW - WoW is far more similar to EQ2, Vanguard, LotRO and other games than it is different, and it suffers from many of the same problems. WoW has bugs, balance issues, itemization issues, and direction issues. How, for example, would EQ2 fans react if DoF had reduced raid sizes from 24 to 18, similar to how WoW switched from 40 to 25 person raids with BC?

It's not that WoW doesn't problems one normally sees in MMOs, but their fans are willing to play through them, or simply don't have any real basis for comparison. Perhaps many see WoW as more of a social network type endeavor, and aren't all that concerned about the mechanics? WoW offers them a chance to hang out with their friends, and if class build A is underpowered or drops from dungeon B aren't worth the effort, it's really no big deal.

I agree with you here, that's a very good analysis of the current situation in MMOs. I think as the industry does expand, you'll see more talent being brought in. Also, the proliferation of smaller companies spun off by people like Raph Koster and Scott Hartsman will help develop more management talent.

A new FF MMO could be a big success, considering the huge following the FF series has developed. Is it going to be both a console and PC release?

spyderbite

Grab a check and buy out SOE, Apply for a job as EQ2 Producer at SOE, Cancel your subscription to EQ2, or Shut the fuck up.

Those are your only options if you want to make a difference. Bitching and moaning about their internal structure and organization is like discussing politics on your lunch break. Unproductive.

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aduros

Coming to a thread to bitch and moan about someone else's complaining? Unproductive. Either ignore the thread, go somewhere else, or Shut the Fuck Up. Those are your only options.

It's already been shown that SoE reads and replies to these boards. So your suggestions are inane at best.

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