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firamas · 01-22-2008, 02:51 PM

looks your beef is with cleric/shaman gear then, not scout & fighter gear. direct your bitches and complaints (and maybe some constructive criticism) towards what matters.

the lack of healer plate has nothing to do with any aspect of scout itemization. don't confuse the two.

Emanji · 01-22-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aduros

Show me an EQ2 encounter like This.

Until then please, feel free to shut the fuck up. The fact that you believe RoK and BC encounters are the same, kills whatever credibility you think have. Claiming that difficulty exists in T2, just puts the final nail in your coffin.

Edit: Here's a video so you can see the action

I hope he's not comparing ROK to Pre BC or even Pre Naxx WoW raids. If so then he's just retarded beyond belief.

Tater · 01-22-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Emanji

I hope he's not comparing ROK to Pre BC or even Pre Naxx WoW raids. If so then he's just retarded beyond belief.

WoW raids own! I think that guy who said wow raids sucked just quit eq2 and loaded it up.

Oizen · 01-22-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by firamas

i knew there would be a drove of butthurt soloers and heroic instance raiders who would swarm this thread, decrying my call for a nerf on legendary gear. guess what guys? YOUR LEGENDARY LOOT IS TOO GOOD. there is zip, zero, zilch challenge in running through any heroic T8 content, even the hardest of it, with a few (3-4) players and RoK legendary gear. even the guys clearing the hardest epic content in the game are choosing to wear this legendary gear over top of the T8 fabled. know why? it's not cause the fabled sucks, it's because the legendary stuff is overpowered relative to the difficulty in obtaining it and the effect it has on your character's performance. you can have your little cryfests all you want about raiders calling for nerfs, but when those nerfs are merited they will be asked for.

the T8 fabled is not too far off where it needs to be. it definitely needs some tweaks, but it doesn't need an across the board upgrade. massively upgrading it would then throw all of the epic encounters out of whack from a balance perspective. when guilds can breeze through the hardest of epic zones in legendary gear and AD3's, THAT is the part of itemization that needs to be looked at.

bottom line: there's no challenge in T8. solo mobs are a complete joke, you probably can't even die to them if you fight naked. heroic content is retarded easy. epic content is poorly designed and is also far too easy. the faulty itemization is at the very core of all of this.

Damn /cry more about people who are /crying. ROFL

OK in all seriuosness...

Diminishing returns are still returns and an edge over folks that barely hit the curve in their UBER Legendary quested gear. Good luck hitting the no returns HARDCAP even with your uber mastered raid buffs. Yea haste is easy with the low cap of 200 but, nerfherders /cried and the weaksauce was applied.

Some interesting Level 80 HARDCAP info:
1220 abilities
12,000 mit/resists with EFFECTIVE mit being something like (mit)*(item-level)/(player-level)

Now I'll never be UBER MC'RAIDERPANTS again and probably need some enlightenment like a ton of other readers here. If those are the HARDCAPS... wth is up with everyone saying that there is ABSOLUTELY NO benefit for passing half that... is this in all actuality the HARDCAP? If so SoE needs to communicate this to everyone.

As for a more simplified solution to the bellyaching: I believe that Procs should be more reserved for the raiders and then all this /crying would be moot.

Remember when procs were only on the phatz? Then imbues came and made soloing & tanker life a tad better. MC weapons were still pretty much junk compared to Pris1.0 or Pris2.0 so no one really shouted nerf. Adornments came along for customization but really have become cookie cutter for each class.

Procs are really sweet for raiders and a nice edge when grouping but, honestly sub-20second combat doesn't really make procs too horribly sexy to the average joe imo. take a look at the adorns on raider gear and average joe... they don't always mesh.

After seeing this trend. I kindo expected that regressing procs to FABLED was going to be the big sekret cool raider only thing that was promised with RoK. Anyone else remember an interview or something that said raiders will be getting a new bonus or something?

Ravanos · 01-22-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tater

WoW raids own! I think that guy who said wow raids sucked just quit eq2 and loaded it up.

why whats the difference?

Lesdat · 01-22-2008, 04:13 PM

Legendary and treasured is just fine; they need to make fabled better.

Lesdat · 01-22-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wurm

What does Legendary mean BTW? The same thing as Fabled. But yeah that has nothing to do with EQ2

1) Fabled should have better stats... Legendary +35 int Fabled +55 int for example

2) Fabled should have better (or MORE) abilities... +2 crit for Legendary +4 crit + a stun proc + 120 fire damage for Fabled for example.

3) Fabled stun/stifle/damage abilities and procs should be the only gear in the game that should effect Epic encounters. Nothing worse than getting a kick ass piece of Fabled gear with a great ability only to read said ability "does not effect Epic targets!"

Make Fabled gear mean something in regards to Epic content and you'll be trading out your "good" Treasured and Legendary gear for Fabled every time with no hesitation.

So do that and make top end encounters SMARTER and HARDER (and one shot killing the Main Tank for shits and giggles doesn't count) and you won't see any more of these threads.

And more importantly you won't have people whining for nerfs on equipment they would rather not use any way.

Very well said. Worth reading by the masses, too.

Tater · 01-22-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravanos

why whats the difference?

Quality and quantity is the difference.

firamas · 01-22-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lesdat

Legendary and treasured is just fine; they need to make fabled better.

and make epic encounters that are already too easy, even easier? yeah, that's brilliant.

if all they did was buff the current T8 fabled to make it desirable over legendary, they would have to increase BOTH the epic and heroic content levels of difficulty. do you honestly expect them to do that? come on. everything is too easy right now, there is no sense of accomplishment when you run an instance (either heroic or raid zone). when encounters are already out of balance difficulty-wise, the solution is not to blindly buff the loot.

you people are fucking idiots.

Uyaem · 01-22-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oisin

Now I'll never be UBER MC'RAIDERPANTS again and probably need some enlightenment like a ton of other readers here. If those are the HARDCAPS... wth is up with everyone saying that there is ABSOLUTELY NO benefit for passing half that... is this in all actuality the HARDCAP? If so SoE needs to communicate this to everyone.

I couldn't seriously care less about the hard cap.
One of my resists is ~3700 at the moment, resulting in ~49% damage reduction from that particular damage type.
I have another resist sitting at ~8700, which is ~67% damage reduction.
Gear with +Hitpoints is still the best "resist gear".

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Originally Posted by Lesdat

Very well said. Worth reading by the masses, too.

I'd like to ask you to read the rest of the thread here.
Why would any wizard sitting at 1150 INT care if there's 35 or 55 INT on a piece of gear, when he gets to 1150 in common legendary/T7 fabled?

If you put more stats on a gear, it'll only cause people to run around half naked for a giggle, because filling all slots doesn't yield a benefit.
And that's when I'll start my female dark elf only guild, so you got a point, it's not all bad...