Assassin Vs Wizard - Page 3

Gaige · 01-27-2008, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Slamdar

We all saw what he did with the dark elf racial abilities, and I expect nothing less of a pure and blatent favoritism towards assassins on the epics.

Raiding everyday I don't see our DE scouts using the overpowered racial ability to actually, I dunno, do anything. It barely matters.

Illuminator · 01-27-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Grouper

Yeah but wizards are gay. Also due for a solid nerf long before ass are.

If there were a "problem" then it would have been with itemization. But the pajama-wearing, no-pet-hate-splitting sorcerors should be #1 dps in the game regardless.

Melendiil · 01-27-2008, 04:39 PM

A Wizard in vp with timecompression, and a coercer in the raid is golden. With no coercer in the mt group its constant aggro management and holding back.

Assasins do extremely well dps in the yellow zones. All in all id say they are pretty even.

Cochy · 01-27-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Melendiil

Assasins do extremely well dps in the yellow zones. All in all id say they are pretty even.

I wouldn't.

Davngr · 01-28-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by acessin

ok I've been googling and attempting to compare for the last hour and cant find an answer so I'll leave it up to the trolls.

I'm getting close to the point of no return and want to make sure I take the right path. I currently have a 65 assassin and do a fair amount of damage, BUT I also play alot with a wizard that appears to be able to out dps me any time she feels like.

My goals are to raid, its what i enjoy the most, so we can ignore all the questions about soloing and stuff like that.

my question is this ... with equally equiped characters played with equal skill which one deals more dps? I dont care about utilitiy or buffs or any of that crap, which one does more damage ... period.

thanks
Jara

i have a 76 wizard and a 60 assasin.. different play styles i have fun on both toons the assasin i play consevatively untill the mob is 60% or so( different on epics but same concept you want to time your big stealth CA's to chain), then unload evrything and usually get the kill shot. wizard i hit the mob with evry big hit i have(as they refresh) hoping i dont die... IMO assasin has the upper hand for dps potetial but like most have said there is isues with mobs avoiding your hits something wizards/casters dont need to worry too much about with a properly debuffed mob.

Davngr · 01-28-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

If there were a "problem" then it would have been with itemization. But the pajama-wearing, no-pet-hate-splitting sorcerors should be #1 dps in the game regardless.

the best player with the best group set up should be #1 dps.. for one class to raid supreme is boring. there are clear cut lines on waht classes are dps and any of those classes should be capable of #1 dps.

Azleya · 01-28-2008, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Davngr

the best player with the best group set up should be #1 dps.. for one class to raid supreme is boring. there are clear cut lines on waht classes are dps and any of those classes should be capable of #1 dps.

That's a dumb attitude to have. Obviously a good player with a good group setup will own a shitty player with a shitty setup almost regardless of class, but that says nothing about the quality of their respective classes. What about when everyone has equal group setups and gear and skill? Are you seriously going to argue that all 'dps classes' should do equal dps holding all other variables equal for those involved? Different classes clearly need to have different dps potentials depending on what utility they bring to the raid, or else certain classes will be useless due to having equal dps, but deficient utility. Tradeoffs - it's a pretty simple concept.

Cochy · 01-28-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

If there were a "problem" then it would have been with itemization. But the pajama-wearing, no-pet-hate-splitting sorcerors should be #1 dps in the game regardless.

Lets just throw out the whole concept of the different armor types because if you were actually raiding anything worth a fuck at this time you would know chain or cloth it doesn't matter a raid mob will still one shot you. Melees have to deal with a lot more problems than a caster ever will from short ranged AE's, to damage shields, casters pulling aggro and having the mob run all over the place to hits. While Predators may get hate reduction we also have a whole lot of other issues to deal with that more than make up for any hate transfer we get.

Orochan · 01-28-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

If there were a "problem" then it would have been with itemization. But the pajama-wearing, no-pet-hate-splitting sorcerors should be #1 dps in the game regardless.

Like I've said countless times before, preds have no real group utility, mages ( wizards/locks ) do.

Therefore preds should always be above mages, always.

When you give assassins propagate etc etc, then you can start bitching about who shud do more dps. Until then

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND L2P.

Slippery · 01-28-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Orochan

Like I've said countless times before, preds have no real group utility, mages ( wizards/locks ) do.

Therefore preds should always be above mages, always.

When you give assassins propagate etc etc, then you can start bitching about who shud do more dps. Until then

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND L2P.

When you get your perma number one dps spot I better get the ability to not get one shot by anything heroic or greater, the ability to have free damage without using power, and the ability to have poisons of my own so I can vary what effects I do.

Since neither of these are ever going to happen, either suck up the fact that it will always be the best player with the best group topping the parse, or quit.

Edit: The ability to effectively kite would be nice as well