Slippery

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Niber

Are all the melee weapons slashing?

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Camryn

Swashies is a piercer

Illuminator

Only if you have cast haste out the ass.

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80/140 Wizard, 80/140 Illusionist, 80/140 Warden, 80/128 Troubador, etc.



HA HA fuck you, Roger. And don't vote for Obama.

Slippery

That is assuming you are intelligent enough to proc it before pull and only have normal cast haste of your aa's, a couple pieces of gear, and a monk in raid. It will easily be up half the fight under those circumstances.

Johnathon

NVM Found it, Updated =)

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Virulence

Slippery,
Im not going to call BS on your calculation of the 4% dps increase from WoCP, but did you take into account the nerf to lock's propagations?

My gut is telling me the epic will parse higher without even considering the 4% crit+.

My gut could also be telling I had too much Mexican food at lunch so its unclear.

Illuminator

These discussions assume the fight extending infinitely forwards and backwards and time, and you take any random segment and figure what the average dps would be for it. It would be impossible to generally compare anything if we included and waited for every precondition. Especially when they statistically happen only once no matter how long the fight.

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80/140 Wizard, 80/140 Illusionist, 80/140 Warden, 80/128 Troubador, etc.



HA HA fuck you, Roger. And don't vote for Obama.

Slippery

Your gut is telling you wrong, I told you exactly what it will parse. Somehow prove to me that the damage proc or the boe from that proc will parse more than what I told you, or even give reasoning. Keep in mind that my estimate from the boe is high, because the proc'd boe counts towards boe cap and suffers the same penalty on ae's, rod, storming tempest, and glacialshield as normal boe does (which especially makes wocp dominate the fuck out of this weapon on ae fights like avatars). Your gut feeling means jack shit unless you can somehow back it up. I'm talking from practical experience. I don't open my mouth about game mechanics or items unless I've tested and done the research about what I'm going to open my mouth about. Maybe you should try that.

Even without assuming you proc it before the fight, it procs on any spell. There is a good chance it procs when you cast iceshape/frigid gift. With self cast haste, a monk, a couple pieces of gear, and a troubador I pretty much gurantee it is up at least 30 seconds of every minute. 30 seconds of every minute = a 4% increase in dps since it is a base damage proc. 13.2 seconds per proc (because any decent raid has you with a troub, and any decent troub has harmonization) so it only needs to proc twice, plus another proc that can overlap one of the other two. This is not some huge stretch of the imagination, this is the fact that it is really likely.

Slippery

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