SOE does not want raiders. - Page 3

Niber · 03-10-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Meta

Just look at EQ1. It's the ultra hardcore top-end that keeps that game alive.

Development on EQ1s engine takes less manpower and less time. I bet Roger could create a whole zone of EQ1 content in the same time it takes him to design a single (broken) mob in EQ2. For that reason alone they cannot follow EQ1s model.

But in reality, who would want to mimic EQ1s population these days?

Edwin Ahe · 03-10-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HardcoreCasual

I've been playing for 4 years. I don't raid.
I'd love it if all raid content was removed and all the raiders went someplace else.

I don't think I'd see that big a dent in my server's population, and the bonus would be getting rid of all the bad apples. (Not that all raiders are bad, but all the twats are raiders.)

Who the fuck you are?

Mirdo · 03-10-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HardcoreCasual

I've been playing for 4 years. I don't raid.
I'd love it if all raid content was removed and all the raiders went someplace else.

I don't think I'd see that big a dent in my server's population, and the bonus would be getting rid of all the bad apples. (Not that all raiders are bad, but all the twats are raiders.)

Keep on trolling there fella. You might get some bites.

Kall · 03-10-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Caswydian

Why would any MMO company want raiders, given your description of them?

It's the same phenomenon why people watch arrogant, asshole athletes and how they idolize them.

The same exact thing exists in EQ2 and you are oblivious if you think otherwise.

HardcoreCasual · 03-10-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirdo

Keep on trolling there fella. You might get some bites.

From the twats, no doubt.

Illuminator · 03-10-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kall

Why do you think they made Nintendo games so fucking hard? Spelunker, Ghostbusters, Ghosts 'n Goblins , etc.

None of my friends bothered with those games. Spelunker was horrible, even though I can still hum the theme 20 years after last playing it.

Thundaarr · 03-10-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Edwin Ahe

Because games with good raid content are practically non-existent?

I was saying it and will say again: one company has to grow balls and create MMO for hard-core gamers. Tell casual-instant-gratification crowd to fuck off and make something that hard-core gamers will enjoy.

Well not only create an MMO for peeps who are hardcore, but create a damn good one. It really is possible actually to make a game with a good hardcore "feel" and still have casuals able to play the game. You just gotta bring back some unpopular things. I for one would bring xp loss back into the game when you died, including the "un-ding"

Doing that has the benefit of making everyone continually experience your heroic content in some form. Make dungeon crawling a good form of xp (honestly, the horrible xp that was present in KC was a big mistake, imo) and make more contested dungeons with loot that is decent for heroic content, with a chance , even if it's a .001% chance, to drop something really nice that would even be desirable by most raiders, or at least comparable to raid drops.

Anyway, sorry to rant...but a hardcore MMO I think would do very well. But then again, the sad state of affairs that any game with actual risk/vs reward, actual challenge of play even at lower lvl's, and actual progression would be nerfed within 3 months because people would complain it was too hard

Pistola · 03-10-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

None of my friends bothered with those games. Spelunker was horrible.

Eh I didn't mind that game so much...You were the shit if you could be either

A. Any simpsons game
B. Any Marvel game

Those games we're hard mode

Edwin Ahe · 03-10-2008, 12:35 PM

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Anyway, sorry to rant...but a hardcore MMO I think would do very well. But then again, the sad state of affairs that any game with actual risk/vs reward, actual challenge of play even at lower lvl's, and actual progression would be nerfed within 3 months because people would complain it was too hard

Thats why i mentioned that company has to grow balls, and say "Love it, or get the fuck out"

Kall · 03-10-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thundaarr

...and make more contested dungeons with loot that is decent for heroic content, with a chance , even if it's a .001% chance, to drop something really nice that would even be desirable by most raiders, or at least comparable to raid drops.

No. The Sash of Draining was not fun for anyone.