Why I did this and how we can reach a compromise. - Page 10

Pudaan · 03-12-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aduros

Good thing this is SOE, and not some company that's known for fucking over it's customers.

To put it bluntly: your delusional if you think SOE would cave in and meet these demands. Seriously, take a second (or fuck, an hour) to think about what your asking, then realize who your asking to follow through. Not gonna happen. SOE as a corporation, isn't just going to bow down and apologize simply because we've made public the handles of their employees.

It's over. Community relations are ruined, this game is ruined. Let's just enjoy the fireworks, and "show them the definition of unsatisfied customer".

saw this a few pages back and wanted to quote it.

Why are people getting pissed at snark for posting what he did? When was the last time SOE ever reached out to its community? ever? It wouldnt of mattered if snark didn't post the dev info because soe wouldn't of negotiated, they wouldn't of listened, and it doesn't matter how much more dirt you dig up on them. Things wont change.

Just keep riding out eq2 until a better game comes out and hope to god soe doesnt purchase it. or cancel your sub now, either way it wont initiate change

Kelenvor · 03-12-2008, 06:39 PM

Quote from Mr. Low IQ Gnobrin Himself:

Is SoE going to comment on the outing of the developers on EQ2Flames?

Not really, but if you want to comment about it, there's a couple posts in the Non-Gameplay discussion forum for it.

~Gnobrin!

This is exactly what the community relation team has wanted for a while. They were just looking for an excuse to drop the axe. Gnobrin knows that he's been belittled to death because he's such a poor excuse of a community relations person.

There will be no compromise by them. This was their plan. They are ready to weather the storm. Only people who could possibly change things is Smed. I don't see him getting involved. It would show that he didn't have trust in his new EQ2 producer to handle the situation.

It's all political. Nothing done by Sony is based on logic.

krohm · 03-12-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Snark

What I want to happen:

I want the community manager to formally apologize for their reaction.

I want a peaceful discussion in ventrilo or IRC with the staff of EQ2flames to discuss an appropriate relationship.

And most importantly, I want to work on an EQ2Flames summit established in San Diego every year to peacefully and intelligently discuss every aspect of game development and what the primary issues are from the community stand point. Because we understand this game a lot better than the people you choose to come down every year. Infinitely better.

If yea come to SD BBQ at my place and Niber should buy the beer, hell he owes me for using my guard to pl his toons.

Hoss · 03-13-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kena

that to me is the worst of all the things posts as its one of two things, either sexual harrasment or basicly prostitution. Its harrasment if he pressured her to do, prostitution of he jus paid her for it. Either way its a serious violation and abuse of his in game power. Tbh who knows what's next, will he pressure someone else to do this since it worked the first time and wha is the companys stance, I know if I did somethinglike this at my job I would be canned asap.

Oh please. It can't be prostitution because the items are not real. They're just a collection of pixels, and all the pixels belong to sony. It can't be sexual harassment unless he had some actual power over her and could intimidate her into doing it. The dude just got a little action. You're just jealous. So am I, but I aint a hater.

I'm thinking of starting a guild that will be a safe haven for developers. If any devs are interested, send me a PM. Free strats, gear, and sex. That'll make this the perfect game.

-h

Sashtan · 03-13-2008, 07:42 PM

poor EQ2 Flames they've burned all their bridges and they want back in on the circle?

those who bitch all the time get what they deserve

Illuminator · 03-13-2008, 07:48 PM

I don't think you even know where the circle is drawn.

Argyuile · 03-13-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sashtan

poor EQ2 Flames they've burned all their bridges and they want back in on the circle?

those who bitch all the time get what they deserve

Ya no matter what anyone does to you ever you should never complain or fight back or say anything, you should just stand there and take it.

Sash you sound really hot wanna come to my house and not complain about stuff I do to you, it'll be great.

Broomhilde · 03-13-2008, 08:49 PM

You asking a corporation to compromise becuase you outted a few of their employees? I doubt they care. I have many friends in marketing and corporate relations in major firms thruout this country and I know enough about how Corps view these kinds of things. SOE is probably having a giggle over this. I'm sure they can get those in-game names changed or powerlevel new characters for those employees and get their emails changed. In fact thats probably done already. In fact I doubt they give two flying fucks about the employees outted.

Personally I give kudos to SOE for even associating with the site. I swore up and down they wouldn't due to some of the content and posters here. Sure there is great game content but theres also alot of racism, sexism, etc. here as well, elements that most public corporations steer clear of for political/public relations reasons. I give em props for at least trying in that regard. This incident was probably just an excuse to disengage themselves.

The only power a consumer has is to stop buying a corporations product. AOC is coming out soon.

LFG · 03-13-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sashtan

poor EQ2 Flames they've burned all their bridges and they want back in on the circle?

those who bitch all the time get what they deserve

Those who voluntarily bend over and take it in the ass also get what they deserve.

See how we are similar, despite our differences?

Sashtan · 03-13-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Argyuile

Ya no matter what anyone does to you ever you should never complain or fight back or say anything, you should just stand there and take it.

Sash you sound really hot wanna come to my house and not complain about stuff I do to you, it'll be great.

That could either be considered a threat,
or kinky...lol

hmmm anyways, i am one to complain when i've been wronged and it seriously effects me, but...you know what ill do if ive been wronged on a video game to an extent that i hate the developers or the game or whatever? (no ZOMG my class got nerfed isnt a good reason, thats called balancing, as long as im not useless a nerf doesnt really bother me that much)It wont be complain, itll be oh...i dont like this game anymore...and then...

get this

I wont make posts about how im mad and blah blah blah.

Ill just fucking quit.

its a video game, i can live without it, id never play a video game that i didnt like, that would be a waste of my free time on a grand scale.

so why do you guys play this video game that has developers that "wrong" you so often and that you hate so much, with a game thats so "buggy, has horrible raid balancing, nerfs your class all the time...etc etc etc." If something i do in my free time for my enjoyment pissed me off like that, well i would just not partake in said activity. Is my logic understood here?

No probably not.