I'm pretty tired of the Freeport disadvantages - Page 3

LFG · 12-06-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Epitaphe

Q advantages's over FP :
QH has a bank (far from broker but it here anyway)
Want to do ghoulbane create an alt on Q do the dusty blue stone quest have friend give your main the stone (used to be like that dunno if they finally changed it) go to graystone yard talk to the npc then avoid mutli high lvl guard all around for the update
Want to elctrified the BBC you have to get berik. by the time you could safely cross nektulos all of storm hall was gray out.
Want to do Jboot have to get pass the guard in front of the NPC
Want to cross NFP gotta take the panoramic run where in Q there is a ramp.
Nektulos used to be death trap (anyone still remember the pyrana chassing you or the wisp) while TS is just a walk in the field
Tunare for healer.
Mithaniel Marr for tanks.
Market is far better in Q than in FP ( about 65% / 35% ratio between the 2 cities)
More quest and heritage start from the Q side DWB GBS Fishbone earring ghoulbane.
Templar > inqui when it comes to healing (though inqui have whole different use in raid than just healing)
Prismatic 2 no need to do a worthless tedious useless quest to finish it.
1 more starting city for Good align player.

FP advantages's over Q :
Rallos for scout DPS
Assassin & Brigand > ranger (and to swashi to a certain extend)
Player born and raise in FP that have had to deal with all the bullshit are 95% of the time more skilled and more knowledgeable from the spoonfeeded queynosians. (not saying all player from Q suck)
Stein of mogok quest starter (though at lvl 40 quest lvl all the EFP guard are lvl gray and not a threat anymore)

Might have a missed a few but well all i could think of in a few minutes

Very nice list. If you don't mind, I'm going to borrow from it and start a highly inflammatory post on the SoE boards.

arieste · 12-06-2006, 02:48 PM

I disagree. Having leveled one of my toons in Qeynos, i must say that all the gameplay advantages they get don't even begin to make up for all the flowery. rambling, nonsensical and unrealistic bullshit that Qeynosians have to put up with from NPCs.

Also, I'll take sneaking by the X4 guards over living in a city full of frogs anyday. Someone say that froglok were "good off the bat", I agree with that 100%, the last time I took a bat to one of them, it felt damn good.

cheers.

Falik · 12-06-2006, 04:05 PM

A benifit on PVP toward the lower lvl Q's is that they have two overland entry ways into the city and newb area's around FP. (Sprawl and Graveyard) Where as FP has to swim to the Peat bog, which make it's much easier to funnel in your kills as it were.

For those that dont know the bell system doesnt work for the oposing member factions.

Epitaphe · 12-07-2006, 07:55 AM

LFG use my list as much as you want
Reguards

Broomhilde · 12-07-2006, 10:59 AM

I remember finally reaching Thundering Steps after weeks of fighting it out in Nek Forest. Those DAMN TREES! I think I lost about 10 shards in that place. I got to TS and saw what was there and just laughed. So this was the good sides Nek "equivalent?" Ha!

Epitaphe · 12-07-2006, 11:42 AM

nektulos was just the death incarnate, i still remember having to grey it out for a few people that wanted to betray cause it was dangerous. cross TS is like "follow the huge mobless road please".
There is still those flower and all those nasty thing in there that cast manadrain, or slow on you when you walk close. i dont think there is an equivalent in TS??

Simonsays · 12-07-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Epitaphe

There is still those flower and all those nasty thing in there that cast manadrain, or slow on you when you walk close. i dont think there is an equivalent in TS??

There isn't any in TS because those are actually part of a quest in Nektulos.

Stoic · 12-07-2006, 12:10 PM

To be honest though I kinda liked the disadvantages at first. Reason was because you actually had to work at your class and it was a challenge cause you were hard pressed on all sides. I like trials by fire so to speak cause it wasn't outrageously difficult! I mean at lvl 15 I made it all the way to the Fire Elemental and back without a single death and without invis or stealth of any kind. You just have to be a bit more careful is all. TS was a joke though I wouldn't even level there cause it was such crap.

The people who couldn't handle it rerolled to other Qeynos side type things and left freeport to the talented. Maybe I am biased toward freeport but dang if I wanted to play a game on easy mode at the begining I woulda been a Qeynosian, but I actually enjoy a challenge that isn't overly powerful. Although it does suck that Freeport gets shit on so much. I am thinking of just waiting till the Arsai are made before trying to do anything with the Fae. Screw fearies, I think its great they included a mystical race like that into a game finally but dang why couldn't they have been just as generous over all this time to the freeporters too? We aren't too picky we just want balance is all.

From a roleplay standpoint too you now have 2 cities on the good side a neutral city and an evil one. Freeport is constantly besieged by orcs and qeynosians and now we have kelethin to worry about too. Lucan will need to institute some sort of strengthened defense like making all the guards in freeport 60+ so that newbs from qeynos can't infiltrate our city. He should retrain all the guards so that anyone wanting to come in will have to be from freeport like also instuting guards in the sewers at the entrances to the diffrent zones so that people couldn't sneak into our city. OR make it so that cities were pvp enabled regardless of the server.

So lets say all cities are now pvp enabled for all servers. From a roleplay standpoint it holds up and it provides even greater risk to others plus you could hunt people trying to get into your city just like a real city would do. (Taken from Forgotten Realms) If a high elf went into the fabled city of menzoberanzen the home of the dark elves then what would happen? Not just guards would kill them anyone with a sword or spell would kill them on site unless they were a prisoner being dragged by chains through the city streets. To be honest it would also open up the possibility that the players could achieve ranks (nothing else no pvp rewards other than a nifty title) like one would be "Defender of the Chaos" or "Legionaire of Disorder" I mean after all its just a title that goes on your name. The flip side of this is people would try to farm for titles the only problem is that if someone tried to farm their alt in a diffrent city people would have a easy time spotting a qeynosian and would prolly make it very very difficult to go unnoticed through freeport.

Those are just ideas though and doubtful any of it would actually go into place but I can dream by god!

Choadley · 12-07-2006, 12:11 PM

Yeah, the Nek side was a major bitch in the early going. Fish getting bugged right at the Commonlands gate that stayed there and attacked all who zoned in on occaison. Sometimes they sat right in the middle of the pathways as well. It was crazy. The first time I set foot in TS, I was awed at how open and easy it was to avoid agro.

The vendor percentage fee is something I see going away on PVE at some point. It doesn't make sense when the major side of the market is on one side and all goods are sold on all brokers now. PVE has absolutely no feel of good vs evil, like the PVP server does. It just becomes a pain for Freeport dwellers and an advatage to Qeynos.

I've learned to live with all the unbalance of the sides now though, so I'm not holding my breath in any way.

Shintaro · 12-08-2006, 04:12 PM

Nek was fucking killer. Remember trying to run up to the patchwork men to XP/SBH? Not to mention running to get the SBH in the first place!

Also, TS got RoV.. my favourite zone in the whole game with sick xp and (now) sick loot drops for the level, with tonnes of named. We got Nek castle, which is a long zone which breaks half the time and has a lockout, and is instanced, and is a general pain in the arse.

However, I wouldn't change being freeport for anything in the world. Efp is so much cooler to run around aimlessly in than QH.

Oh, and our classes kick the shit out of theirs, if I might say so myself.