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Old 12-08-2006, 05:22 PM  
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Then why are you acting like you did something wrong. If you think you were right, why get all worked up and start with personally attacks right off the bat? Why didn't you attack other people who for the most part said the same thing I did? I must have struck a nerve somewhere.

If you truly think you are right, then calm down and act like it, because right now you are out of control.
LFG is a big boy. I don't always agree with him and he plays a different kind of game then I so it hard to always relate. That being said, your initial post pissed me off and you wonder why he slammed you back?

You start off by calling him a cheater and claim he lacks morals. Your tone and words flat out call him out to respond and he responded in kind. Again, you weren't addressing me and I took umbrage. Now, you claim he is out of control?

Wow.
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:27 PM  
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And Dehah, I think you also owe me an apology, for continuing to infer that I'm either trying to run or hide from something here, or lack the courage to do something.
I apologize for saying you lacked the conviction to back what you believe in. I was wrong, you truly do believe what you did was right.

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All you've done is fail to read and think before you type, and intentionally ruin relationships for whatever unknown retarded reason you have here.
I never had a relationship with you. I don't know why you thought we did. It is up to you whether or not you hold my actions against our mutual friends.

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What we have here is a difference of opinion between the way you and I see the world on a particular point. Your limited, closeted view of the world prevents you from seeing that, and caused you to turn this into something much greater than it was.
And your view made you over 120p for doing relatively nothing. I completely agree that this is a difference of opinion. So why exactly, does the expression of my opinion justify you attacking guildmates that have absolutely nothing to do with this thread?

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Do you think I'd be able to give the extreme opinions I give if I had ever done anything wrong in this game, or had anything to hide? I wouldn't be able to give such strong opinions, because when I did, I'd be immediately shut down by comments regarding prior sleazy behavior, none of which exist.
See above for example of prior sleazy behavior that you are currently accusing me of.

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So for you to come here and claim that I'm an exploiter, and that I'm hiding from something and am afraid of you or your words or any other motherfucking thing on this planet, just proves you are a close minded assumer, and a narrow and small thinker, the intellectual equivalent of a bigot.
Interesting choice of words, I never said you were afraid of me or my words? I called you an exploiter and I when I said you lacked conviction and challenged you to post the EQ2 forums I pretty much said you were trying to hide something, so those are fair. But, I don't know how you interpret anything I’ve said as to imply that you are afraid of me or my words.

I'm still not sure how any of that qualifies as proof that I am "a close minded assumer, and a narrow and small thinker, the intellectual equivalent of a bigot".
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:28 PM  
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Then why are you acting like you did something wrong. If you think you were right, why get all worked up and start with personally attacks right off the bat? Why didn't you attack other people who for the most part said the same thing I did? I must have struck a nerve somewhere.
I'm not acting like I did something wrong. If I defended myself any less forcefully against you, that to me would be the same as admitting your charges.

Good lord man, you are an adult, and are asking me why people get mad when you accuse them of being a cheater.

Why am I acting more strongly toward you than others? Because you have made the harshest, strongest, and most definite concrete personal accusations that I'm a cheater. Allow me to summarize everything I've stated above for you: fuck you, asshole. Is that clear enough?

I'm not out of control. I act like this in RL also. You, Sir, are out of a clue. You really need to get one before it's too late.
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Actually, you don't know this do you?

The "intent" of the refund was to compensate for the reduction in quality. Pre-patch the items were worth X. After the patch, they are worth Y. The difference was given to the player whether they had 1 or 100.
I was under the impression that the adornment had to be placed on an item for it to qualify for the refund. That shows that the intent of the refund was to reimberse users of the adornment.
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:33 PM  
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Dehah, let me alert you to something else also.

There are two kinds of posts I never read:

1. Long multi-quote posts where a person is trying to counter point by point. IMO, you should stick to a main point and defend that, with just one, but never more than two, main arguments per post. Your stuff is just too much of a chore to read otherwise. Just make a post for each point you want to argue about, and don't try and counter every word, just pick the more important ones, and disregard the less important ones as filler.

2. The same type of post where someone color codes each response and reply in a different color. I don't even try and read posts that have more colors than a Xmas tree. You don't do this, but I wanted to include this point in my response.
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I was under the impression that the adornment had to be placed on an item for it to qualify for the refund. That shows that the intent of the refund was to reimberse users of the adornment.
Nope. Merely the owners. The presumption is that if you own an adornment, you will use it. SoE should have made it so all of the adornments, used or not, were compensated for. I consider that an oversite on their part.

btw, de-guild yet?
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:44 PM  
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You want your questions answered? Here is my formal response:

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Do you think that it was SOE's intention for players to adorn as many items as possible in anticipation of the refund to amass large quantities of wealth ranging from 100p to 1000p virtually over night?

Do you think SOE made a mistake with how they decided who got a refund and how much they got? If yes, did you knowingly take advantage of their mistake?
The answer to each is the same. I have no idea what SoE was thinking or what their intention was when they decided to make this refund program or post the announcement they did in the Test patch notes.

I'm not Miss Cleo, this isn't the Psychic Friends Network. I do not second guess, and do not attempt to approach situations like this in the manner you suggest. I did not speculate on what SoE's intent or motive was when I read that post, and I decline to do so now.

I also do not know whether SoE made any mistake in doing what they did. I never considered that when I read the Test notes, and decline the opportunity to speculate on that issue now.

They made a public announcement of what they were going to do. I intentionally acted on that information to my benefit, in the same way I do whenever possible in real life. Their intentions, what was going through their mind, and all the other things you continue to yap about are completely and utterly immaterial to the decision processes I used when I did what I did. They gave me permission to do what I did when they annnounced what they announced, and I neither violated any game rules nor my personal code of ethics when I acted as I did.

Please don't make me explain this to you again. I beg you not to make another multi quote post out of this. If you feel I had the duty to break out a crystal ball and speculate on SoE's INTENT before I acted in this case, for the love of God man, just fucking say that.
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So I ask you again sir, are you lying, naive, or just stupid? Only answer with one of those three choices please, and don't try and explain, since that is what you expect from others with your questions.
Can you answer your own question Ixnay?

I answered the questions I gave you myself. I'll repost again for the third time.

Do you think that it was SOE's intention for players to adorn as many items as possible in anticipation of the refund to amass large quantities of wealth ranging from 100p to 1000p virtually over night?

My Answer: No

Do you think SOE made a mistake with how they decided who got a refund and how much they got? If yes, did you knowingly take advantage of their mistake?

My Answer: Yes.
My Answer to Follow up: No

These are not trick questions like you claim them to be. I am not asking "Do you still tradeskill bot since the GM talked to you?". My questions are not like the questions you asked me. What do you have to lose? You believe you are right, just answer the questions. Actually, I encourage all people here to answer the questions, not just you Ixnay.
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Dehah... he declined to speculate. That's your answer.

Wow, stubborn.
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You want your questions answered? Here is my formal response:

The answer to each is the same. I have no idea what SoE was thinking or what their intention was when they decided to make this refund program or post the announcement they did in the Test patch notes.

I'm not Miss Cleo, this isn't the Psychic Friends Network. I do not second guess, and do not attempt to approach situations like this in the manner you suggest. I did not speculate on what SoE's intent or motive was when I read that post, and I decline to do so now.

I also do not know whether SoE made any mistake in doing what they did. I never considered that when I read the Test notes, and decline the opportunity to speculate on that issue now.

They made a public announcement of what they were going to do. I intentionally acted on that information to my benefit, in the same way I do whenever possible in real life. Their intentions, what was going through their mind, and all the other things you continue to yap about are completely and utterly immaterial to the decision processes I used when I did what I did. They gave me permission to do what I did when they annnounced what they announced, and I neither violated any game rules nor my personal code of ethics when I acted as I did.

Please don't make me explain this to you again. I beg you not to make another multi quote post out of this. If you feel I had the duty to break out a crystal ball and speculate on SoE's INTENT before I acted in this case, for the love of God man, just fucking say that.
Post right after this was started before this showed up.

Good enough.
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