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Old 12-06-2006, 05:24 PM  
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Sorry if that disappoints, but my concience is crystal clear on this one. I acted on information made public by SoE, and took a risk that I would lose, rather than make money. I just happened to guess correctly by going with my common sense reading of the patch notes.
Who said anything about disappointment?

Posted right up there that they were reimbursing.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:28 PM  
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P.S Elanie, you have nothing to worry about...I don't feed the animals at the zoo.
Do you always have to edit to add in an insult to me? I would be flattered, but thats like the Special Ed kids at school who used to shout obscenites in the middle of class. It has less punch if you have to edit it in as an afterthought.

Like I said, LFG, if I had more money at the time, I would have picked up a couple more and adorned my back up gear as well, but I've been pouring all my money into tradeskilling lately, so I had to make due with the one I had on me.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:28 PM  
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and good for you. in no way was that an exploit. it was not some hidden bug in he game. it was announced by officials and anyone with half a brain could of taken the same risk. But, it was just that, A RISK. His post would of been far different if they only re-funded the fuel cost, he would of been 100plat rather then in.
Ok let me first just say that I wouldn't call LFG's actions an exploit per say, sure it was in a way taking advantage of an opportunity, but I can't quite say it is against anything he accepts everyday in his EULA. I might be wrong, but I don't believe anything in there states that crafting items to be reimbersed by SoE is against the rules.

However, your defense of LFG rinion, is kinda outta whack. First of all, as we all know, things don't have to be "a hidden bug" to be an exploit. Was reviving with 100% power a hidden bug, or something "anyone with half a brain could" realize. However, we all know about Kalidon's death coordination tactic, and we all screamed exploit then. Because it was. By your reasoning, it would not be. All Kalidon did was use a "unhidden" game mechanic to gain an unfair advantage. All LFG did was use an announcement to gain (what some people may say) is an unfair advantage.

Also, if you actually read the posts previous to the ones that you write, you would have realized that LFG said that he had figured out approx. Granted he was gambling on the fact that SoE's wording and logic were reasonable, this wasn't like flipping a coin. It was an educated decision to make money.

Perhaps you should learn a lesson from Kiara and just admit you're wrong. You're not wrong, IMO, that it isn't an exploit, you're just wrong about WHY it isn't an exploit. I understand comparing zerging on a raid to making coin isn't a very clear similarity, but I just used that example because it was the first thing that popped into my head of a non "hidden bug" that people used.

I have no real problems with what he did. Grats on the 120p.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:30 PM  
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And I really don't care about or need the plat, I'd donate it to a starving noobs fund if there was a legitimate one lol (but don't send me tells asking for plat or I'll call you a prideless beggar and tell you to F off).

My purpose in doing this was for the thrill, for the sport, based on the risk. It was like gambling.

And it also should give SoE with a valuable lesson here: Don't tip the market like this, or alert people that there is windfall money to be made by acting in a certain way.

My situation is petty compared to the people on the Euro servers who had a full extra day before they patched them - I heard one guy on RE or Splitpaw made 2000 plat.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:31 PM  
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Im not disappointed Im jealous /shakes fist
Oh, and at least Ive learned that the test updates auto-post over here. I had no idea. I usually just skim right past that part of the boards. =)
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...even I didn't expect so much fail. It really hurts my mind to think this volume of fuckup wasn't actually intentional.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:32 PM  
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Test server notes are posted on eq2players for everyone to read....
Unfortunately my work blocks the site =(
And when i get home, I raid, not check eq2players.
Can't you just put on ranged attack and go afk?
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:34 PM  
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Rather than waste them he adorned them? that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. They said they were going to nerf them and unequip them with a reimbursment, that is why he adorned them. good lord you're fucking stupid.

P.S Fuck Robert Frost
You're just pissed because you couldn't cash in either. LFG is an opportunist, not a cheater.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:36 PM  
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Can't you just put on ranged attack and go afk?
I could....
Hell, I even had the opportunity to learn from the master of it. =)
Maybe that's the key to max ranger dps....auto attack only. Hmmmmm

**edit Ok wait, the most recent test server update on this site shows the date of Nov 22nd...
Am I missing something?
I knew there was a reason I just skipped past that thread.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:42 PM  
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I just didn't know if he knew how much the reimbursment was going to be. Took a risk and deserves the reward.

The way I looked at it at the time, even if they only reimbursed fuel costs, I still wouldn't have lost money, but it would have taken a while to sell all the extra adornments I made.

Think about it - each of the nerfed adornments are still the best adornments for those slots. People are still going to buy them at lower HP and power. If the only thing you can purchase is a *slight* HP or power increase, rather than a *huge* one, all the leading edge players at least will still spend money to buy that increase.

I put all the adornments I got back as part of the refund on the broker at my cost to make them, which I figure is 2 p each. I did that yesterday after I logged on, and most of them have already sold for that amount. So the way I see it, the refund wasn't really for 3.5 and 4.5 p per item, it was for 5.5 and 6.5 p per item, because that was the total value refunded.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:43 PM  
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And it also should give SoE with a valuable lesson here: Don't tip the market like this, or alert people that there is windfall money to be made by acting in a certain way.

They wouldn't have done it if they didn't want to do it. You are only one of a handful of people that not only reads the notes but took action. Even after this, so few people are going to take the time to read ahead that Sony really has no worries.

And make no mistake, you took a gamble with your raws. Has there ever been a action like this? Has SoE ever been this reasonable with an adjustment? I certainly remember the great imbued ring fiasco that cost me every coin I had made.

Unfortunately for me, I really couldn't take advantage of this. Because I reported an exploit with the adornements, I didn't want to run the risk of having an inventory of adorned rings and getting banned.

I may be poor but I'm honest.
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