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12-07-2006, 09:23 PM
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Character: Haidden
Guild: EQ2 sucks - Ex Impulse
Server: along with AOC
Posts: 140
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Re: LFG you dog...
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Originally Posted by Dehah
Do you care about Tradeskill Botters?
Do you care about IGN plat farmers?
Do you care about people who buy from IGN plat farmers?
Do you care about exploiters?
If you care about EQ2, then you should care, because all of these things hurt the long term health of a game.
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No not really cause they will always be around. They are in every game that you play.
Good try though.
Last edited by Haidden; 12-07-2006 at 09:26 PM.
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12-07-2006, 09:39 PM
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Re: LFG you dog...
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Originally Posted by Haidden
No not really cause they will always be around. They are in every game that you play.
Good try though.
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Thank you. You segregated yourself from the people who care about expoiters from the people who do. Since that makes you a troll in this thread, I'll just ignore the rest of your posts.
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12-07-2006, 10:13 PM
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Character: Retired
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
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Re: LFG you dog...
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Originally Posted by Dehah
LFG exploited.
I'll say it once again, LFG exploited.
To LFG: Unless you have a solid argument that SOE intended for players to take this information for the purposes of being award hundreds of plat for doing jack-shit, then you have no argument at all. You exploited SOE's oversight, just like every other exploiter. Wake up and smell the coffee man. If you are smart, you'd call it out as what it was: a lapse in moral judgment. If you continue to argue that you didn't exploit then you are just making yourself look like a hypocrite.
If you don't think this was exploiting, then your moral compass is about as good as Jack Sparrow's compass, i.e. it points only to what you desire most.
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Dehah, I've never had a problem with you before, which is why I'm somewhat surprised by the intentionally hostile and personal nature of your post. I've always considered myself a good friend to your guild, and maintain friendships with many of your guildmates still today.
Now you've made a very aggressive post against me, and are basically calling me a criminal. You just intentionally made me your enemy, for no purpose except to make me look small, and you look big.
But this history and these things apparently mean nothing to you. So my main response to you now is, go fuck yourself you powertripping asshole. How dare you.
Now that we have the formalities out of the way, allow me to address your charges.
I look at the world in a very black and white way. There is right and wrong, and laws and generally accepted rules of behavior in society strictly defining conduct under almost every situation. I strictly follow those rules, both inside and outside this game.
In this case, SoE posted exactly what was going to happen in plain English. They made a market announcement. In real life, I can and often do legally act on publicly disclosed information as quickly as possible to maximize my wealth. What I did would have been considered perfectly legal, and ethical, under US Securities Laws. And that is the exact standard I used when I acted in this case.
I'll make you a deal, however. If a single solitary employee of SoE comes out and says publicly, anywhere, that they think it was improper for people to have acted as I did in this case, I'll either destroy that 120 plat, or give it to a well known reputable person and have them destroy it, so there is proof it was destroyed.
Because I don't need the plat. It was sport. That's it.
Now, you have called me a hypocrite above and have stated that I'm an exploiter. As you've done in the past, you act as if you are morally pure, and are the proper judge of what is and isn't exploit.
So you wanna play hardball motherfucker? Let's see if you can walk the walk.
How's it feel to have been knowingly guilded for all this time with the single biggest tradeskill macroer and exploiter in the history of the Blackburrow server?
Next time maybe you should focus on cleaning up your own messes before looking for dirt on others, bitch.
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12-07-2006, 10:24 PM
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Character: Sqee
Guild: Children of Darkness
Server: Nektulos
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Re: LFG you dog...
zomg!! you horrable horrable man!! i cant believe you did this!! /jumps off a cliff
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12-07-2006, 10:24 PM
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Character: Retired
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
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Re: LFG you dog...
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Originally Posted by Bodhi
Actually, if the usual board hounds can simmer the fuck down for a second and stop rushing to the aid of LFG, the OP had a point. I remember a few threads on this board with LFG going as far to say he doesn't carry around boxes in his inventory because he sees it as an exploit. You would think someone who goes that far out there, calling THAT an exploit...would keep quiet if he used test patch notes with a "profit" concept in his head on how to work the system.
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This same issue was asked and answered previously in this post, dumbass. Welcome to yesterdays news. I'm not going to repeat myself if you are unable or unwilling to read. Either read the previous post and respond to it, or shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.
Thanks 
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12-07-2006, 10:27 PM
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Daddy Warbucks
Character: Diomi
Guild: Dirty Dozen
Server: Retired (but not for long)
Posts: 129
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Re: LFG you dog...
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Originally Posted by Dehah
To shrug it off as a videogame is irresponsible.
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This was great...I laughed for a while on this one...yes, it is a game. It is with real life people, some friends, some not. Life goes on, LFG will have more plat than me, it's a fact. He saw an opportunity and took it. Good for him. Guess what, the game will continue...yes, I said it, the GAME will continue.
Diomi
D12

Last edited by Dio; 12-07-2006 at 10:33 PM.
Reason: for stupid rushed errors
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12-07-2006, 10:33 PM
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Character: Retired
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
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Re: LFG you dog...
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Originally Posted by Dehah
Do you care about Tradeskill Botters?
Do you care about IGN plat farmers?
Do you care about people who buy from IGN plat farmers?
Do you care about exploiters?
If you care about EQ2, then you should care, because all of these things hurt the long term health of a game.
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Wow, I just saw this, what a fucking hypocrite. If you really cared about these things, you would have either left your guild or booted Emma from it long ago.
Club Fu: This isn't anything against Club Fu. This is a personal matter strictly between this fucking powertripping, self righteous asshole Dehah and now also Emma. No need to make posts or go further than this. If either of these two wish to deny these issues, I'll provide proof. And the next thing you will hear is "ouch."
Dehah, you are a fucking hypocrite, you've known about Emma all along. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, if you aren't smarter than that, I figured you would have at least had more sense.
Thanks.
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12-07-2006, 11:09 PM
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Re: LFG you dog...
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Originally Posted by LFG
Dehah, I've never had a problem with you before, which is why I'm somewhat surprised by the intentionally hostile and personal nature of your post. I've always considered myself a good friend to your guild, and maintain friendships with many of your guildmates still today.
Now you've made a very aggressive post against me, and are basically calling me a criminal. You just intentionally made me your enemy, for no purpose except to make me look small, and you look big.
But this history and these things apparently mean nothing to you. So my main response to you now is, go fuck yourself you powertripping asshole. How dare you.
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Just like you, I see things as right and wrong. I see what you did as wrong. Any prior history you have with the guild I am in or mutual friends has no bearing on whether or not I would think this was right or wrong. The fact that this thread is specifically about you exploiting this, and not just about all people that exploited this is a mere coincidence.
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Originally Posted by LFG
Now that we have the formalities out of the way, allow me to address your charges.
I look at the world in a very black and white way. There is right and wrong, and laws and generally accepted rules of behavior in society strictly defining conduct under almost every situation. I strictly follow those rules, both inside and outside this game.
In this case, SoE posted exactly what was going to happen in plain English. They made a market announcement. In real life, I can and often do legally act on publicly disclosed information as quickly as possible to maximize my wealth. What I did would have been considered perfectly legal, and ethical, under US Securities Laws. And that is the exact standard I used when I acted in this case.
I'll make you a deal, however. If a single solitary employee of SoE comes out and says publicly, anywhere, that they think it was improper for people to have acted as I did in this case, I'll either destroy that 120 plat, or give it to a well known reputable person and have them destroy it, so there is proof it was destroyed.
Because I don't need the plat. It was sport. That's it.
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Answer these two straight forward questions for me Ixnay:
Do you think that it was SOE's intention for players to adorn as many items as possible in anticipation of the refund to amass large quantities of wealth ranging from 100p to 1000p virtually over night?
Do you think SOE made a mistake with how they decided who got a refund and how much they got? If yes, did you knowingly take advantage of their mistake?
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Originally Posted by LFG
Now, you have called me a hypocrite above and have stated that I'm an exploiter. As you've done in the past, you act as if you are morally pure, and are the proper judge of what is and isn't exploit.
So you wanna play hardball motherfucker? Let's see if you can walk the walk.
How's it feel to have been knowingly guilded for all this time with the single biggest tradeskill macroer and exploiter in the history of the Blackburrow server?
Next time maybe you should focus on cleaning up your own messes before looking for dirt on others, bitch.
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You're idea of hardball is attacking someone else? I know you are most likely referring to our very hard working non-raiding members who work their butts off to tradeskill for our guild. I personally don't believe your accusations
because I have never seen them crafting AFK before, and I've caught people AFK crafting before.
I'm shocked that you are resorting to personal attacks, and not even personal attacks at me. I'm not posting in this thread to defend myself against personal attacks, I'm posting in this thread because I don't think this sort of behavior should be regarded as right. If you want to flame me with personal attacks, start a thread in rate-a-retard.
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12-07-2006, 11:25 PM
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Re: LFG you dog...
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Originally Posted by LFG
Wow, I just saw this, what a fucking hypocrite. If you really cared about these things, you would have either left your guild or booted Emma from it long ago.
Club Fu: This isn't anything against Club Fu. This is a personal matter strictly between this fucking powertripping, self righteous asshole Dehah and now also Emma. No need to make posts or go further than this. If either of these two wish to deny these issues, I'll provide proof. And the next thing you will hear is "ouch."
Dehah, you are a fucking hypocrite, you've known about Emma all along. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, if you aren't smarter than that, I figured you would have at least had more sense.
Thanks.
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If you must resort to personal attacks on me. Start a rate-a-retard thread about me and provide your proof that I am a hypocrite there.
Just a note though, if you think that I am a hypocrite because I knowingly live with a tradeskill botter in the same guild, then not only will you have to have proof that this person is a tradeskill botter, but you'll also have to have proof that I knew it already. With that said, if you have proof that a member of Club Fu tradeskill bots, I would deffinitely be interested in seeing it. If it is sensitive in nature you can reach me in game, if it isn't feel free to blast it over the forums.
Now, are you going to debate about your exploits (pun intended) or are you going to continue to attempt to shift the focus of this discussion off of you and onto me?
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