hennyo

This is a good point, I still use a large crt that I have set at a 100hz for my gaming display. Btw I have 3 monitors, 2 are lcd, and one crt.

Another VERY important detail, that alot of people miss, is that even if you have 150 fps, you may only be drawing 80 frames of that on average every second to your screen, EVEN IF your screen could support say 100fps. The reason why, fps calculates every frame made by the gpu, and often, the time spacing between frames in any given second can vary considerably from frame to frame in each second. This causes multiple frames to be made during a period when a monitor can only show one frame, and for it to have no new frames for when it goes thru several chances to put up new frames.

Actual data on frame rates displayed verse frame rates produced wasn't something I could find, other than I know it is a real and present issue. I do know there are ways I could do personal tests on the matter. I also know, that this is a MUCH bigger issue with people that run multiple graphics cards.

Another thing that has to be considered is your own eyes. As someone with exceptional eyesight, I would not consider what I consider good something other people should shoot for. As someone born deaf ( had my hearing surgically corrected when I was 4) and having 9/20 and 11/20 vision puts my vision in the range of one in thousands.

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Petgroup

I can select to not sync my monitor refresh rate and my 60fps shoots up to 100+ and its a noticeable difference (unless I just think it is because I see a 3 digit number) but theres occasional tearing which makes it not worth it. Having 60fps forever is beyond fine with me.

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Illuminator

The monitor refresh is when it copies the color information from video memory to the screen, and does so at a constant rate; your rendering code is either ready for it or it isn't. Writing to video memory faster without waiting for the sync just increases the chance that the pixels already displayed in mid-sweep won't match the new stuff you wrote into the remaining memory. There's your tearing effect, it's not as if you're beating the system and actually displaying more frames than the refresh rate.

In single-threaded logic, the game would be updating the game objects and attack damage and AI and pathing and all that other state shit in between frames. But if that processing takes longer than it takes the monitor to display a frame, then waiting for the sync will cause the game to miss refreshes and thus opportunities to display a new frame. Waiting for the sync is only something you would add if your setup can render faster than the refresh rate, and it's purely cosmetic.

So if you're going from 60 to 100 and noticing a big difference, then your screen refresh is actually higher than 60. On my LCD screens it's capped at 60, but on my old monitors I could get it to 85.

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Saracen

those numbers mean your eyesight is worse than the 'average' human as you have to stand at 11 feet to see the same detail that an average person at 20 feet sees.

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Batu

I get around 30 fps while raiding, but its not my fps that I'm concerned with. Even though the game is relitively smooth, the spell lag in most raid zones is almost game breaking to me.

When you turn the graphic all to max and just run around zones, including a cleared VP instance, this game is the best looking game out at the moment. The level of detail is awesome, but not being able to effectively play because of horrible spell lag, just makes the game unfun. my ping is usually around 135 - 150 so its no my connection.

Sure higher frame rates are nice but it doesnt fix server side spell lag. My frame rate is high enough that i can move all around during a fight in a raid and graphics and movements are soomth but I hit a CA and it takes seconds to actually go off, which IMO is the biggest problem SOE needs to solve immediately before even more people leave because of it.

vlasveld

Fuck off my 486 can get 60 fps on WOW. roffle

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