Coercer changes - Page 4

TANGARTH · 04-16-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Leithe

These changes are fucking stupid.

It's like Aeralik rolled a defiler and inquisitor alt and said HAY GUYS I GOT AN IDEA FOR A NEW CLASS!!11

But we said there'd be no new ones...HAY LETS TURN COERCERS INTO PRIESTS LOL!

No offense but that's really not the case.

Coercers are the least populated class because currently they're one of the most underpowered classes, maybe slightly ahead of shadowknights. All the spells that are being chagned are for the better, it doesn't make sense to have reactive damage on a class who's purpose is to disable mobs. 3 reactives like illusionist might be a little too much, but I'm glad to know the shit's getting looked at.

Oh, and enchanters warded in eq1, so this is a cool throwback on an ability that was pretty much useless

feldon30 · 04-16-2008, 06:28 PM

Ok, instead of making all those changes that make defilers and swashies feel uncomfortable, how about when a coercer charms a { 60 ^^^ Heroic }, it stays one instead of becoming a { 60 } cause that's what happens now. And reduce the likelihood of charm breaking.

Fact is coercers were broken and needed something.

Sakua · 04-16-2008, 06:54 PM

What do defilers and swashies have to feel uncomfortable about exactly?

SacDaddy · 04-17-2008, 02:52 AM

dont fuck with the charm spells they are just fine.

Snooze · 04-17-2008, 05:33 AM

Gonna be interesting to see how it will all work out, imho!

The change to VM sounds nice! Especially now when you have an Enchanter & Mystic with a mythical in the same group, as they surely can screw up the pwr management!

Also frees up slots previously used for pwr proc gear ...

Leithe · 04-17-2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sakua

What do defilers and swashies have to feel uncomfortable about exactly?

Hate transfer. I already have to deal with a less than logical group setup where for some reason it's believed that a 15% transfer of a low DPS class that is greater hate than a 27% transfer from a mythical swashbuckler for the MT.

No, I don't want to hear about power, the power in that group is fucking insane with 3 healer power proc belts and a dirge and plenty of flows inc from other groups if necessary.

Point being...It's fucking annoying. They don't need to make enchanters pseudo-priests or shit like that to give them attention.

Apollodon · 04-17-2008, 09:00 AM

dont run 3 healers

and why is the dirge running crack?

Cervanto · 04-17-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Leithe

Hate transfer. I already have to deal with a less than logical group setup where for some reason it's believed that a 15% transfer of a low DPS class that is greater hate than a 27% transfer from a mythical swashbuckler for the MT.

No, I don't want to hear about power, the power in that group is fucking insane with 3 healer power proc belts and a dirge and plenty of flows inc from other groups if necessary.

Point being...It's fucking annoying. They don't need to make enchanters pseudo-priests or shit like that to give them attention.

Someone wants his MT Swashy group back

Sonorod · 04-17-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dailon

What about giving both enchanters a skill to spread (its the word i hope

their power around. Something like mana burn for wizzy but with feeding effect. Make it some fair recast. Now you may feed a group as a coercer without having to worry about pwr gain which you will flow away next sec.

Um, yeah...try tuning in to the right CHANNEL!

Slips · 04-17-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Leithe

Hate transfer. I already have to deal with a less than logical group setup where for some reason it's believed that a 15% transfer of a low DPS class that is greater hate than a 27% transfer from a mythical swashbuckler for the MT.

You know it's a transfer + Passive hate gain right? So your coercer and tank have to be doing some pretty shitty dps/aggro management in order for a swash to accumulate more transferred hate than the coercer's combined transfer+passive hate that doesn't even take a concentration like the dirge one does.