Kall

They're starting to get some of the end stuff right, finally, except for Avatar stuff vs SoH stuff.

The problem really isn't the top 1 or 2 items anymore (this was the main problem in T7), it's everything below that. You have heroic stuff better than T1-T3 items and T1 items better than T4 items and so forth.

Searril

Are you telling me in every other game there is NEVER a great item gotten from group content? Are you saying that in other games there are NEVER instances where lower raid content drops an item better than that same slot in higher tier content? Some of you are just so worked up about something that has ALWAYS been a part of MMOs and raiding. This stuff is not out of the ordinary nor is it improper.

Wookin

LOL While the epic isn't exactly epic, it's not quite as bad as flipping a gold piece to old Fillser Fuzzle in the Baubleshire.

But, wait, there's meat pie in this game? OMG Sign me up.

Kall

To be honest, I wouldn't mind some incredibly difficult solo trial that was tuned to each class where you had to really know your shit and tested your individual skill rewarding something pretty good.

This is what the Thuuga questline should have ended up to be instead of running around mindlessly inspecting a bunch of crap and killing a couple of solo nameds.

3devious

Just because other people design things poorly, it doesn't make it OK to be a bad designer. That is my main beef with the state of this game and the company that manages it. Sure, the game may be better than what's out there and Sony may have a lot of resources at their disposal, but it doesn't mean that things are going well.

This is the first month I have paid for this game for over 2 years, let's see if I feel like paying or even logging in next month.

kenman

So, you're all for /claiming the best gear in the game as well, I take it? I mean, everybody can do it. Who cares that broken ass progression completely breaks the game and renders doing the highest raid content completely pointless? Pssh.

No, dumbass, the point is that in order to progress your character you should be required to kill more difficult mobs. There should be REASON to want to put forth the effort to kill harder content. And then when you actually do kill harder content, you should be rewarded with better shit than you already have.

Remember Labs? YAY FARMING TRASH MOBS WEAK ENOUGH TO TRIO FOR FULL RELIC GEAR. YAY THE EASIEST NAMED IN THE ZONE DROPPING DOOMRAGE SPAULDERS. But hey -- everybody could do it, that was totally a good design decision, mirite? (BTW, if you say it was, you're a fucking retard.)

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Woot!

3devious

Wasnt't that what Harclave started out as? Some people thought it was a mistake. I sucked too much at the time to find out.

Ravanos

and see i dont see the big deal in that, sure maybe there are a FEW items that come from heroic zones that are better than SOME Epic drops. Sure there may be some protectors stuff that might be better than some higher tier raid stuff. but that doesn't throw kill all progression that just dangles the carrot a bit more.

And i can even justify SoH loot (which im sure will be nerfed in the coming weeks) because SoE wants people to go thier, and they know unlike me most players are here for the uber pixels instead of the fight itself. so they have to dangle a larger carrot in front of you.

Searril

Lots of people disagree, and if only 17% of the best items are non-raid then there's not much to complain about.

Searril

Hyperbole is a wonderful way of making a realistic argument!