Does everyone really hate it? - Page 19

Alesis · 04-18-2008, 01:34 PM

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inski;553706]You know, there's already low-end content that drops decent loot, it's called Protector's Realm. There's also Kor-Sha up until Overking as well. And on the flip side of that coin, theres already VP and Avatars for the high end crowd right?But let's just forget those 2 zones exist. Ok and well rpetend like Avatars and VP arent in game either. Instead, we should like ignore all the people who don't raid and not add any content for them, who are the people who have nothing to look forward into this game as they do not want to raid(for whatever reason that is). Let's just fuck over a larger populace by adding some joke raid content, instead of adding heroic content that everybody but soloers can use. Im not sure where your going with this. Isnt SoH a zone where the non raider can get a pick up raid and join up a bunch of other non raid types and farm some spank and tank mobs for practice?

Make it scripted, make it fun, make it actually require effort to clear. For fuck's sake, can we have some heroic content that is interesting and not just hack&slash? I would have to agree with you on this. The game would be much improved if they put some decent strat mobs in heroic instances, like the boss at the end of MC. Like her or not, she is sorta unique as far as heroic instances go. [/quote]

Kall · 04-18-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

Maybe you spend so much time looking at an ACT parser you dont comprehend the written word so well. Here let me spell it out for you. You asked:
--------------------------------------------------------------------Please tell me why the fuck I should have to tell my guild to lets regress from progression and do a T7 instance over and over again if I want the best gear in the game that will help me kill the hardest mobs in T8?
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and I replied:
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Does the entire game revolve around Confirmeds guild roster? Is there a team of Devs sitting around going: "Hmmmmm, looks like those 24 dudes on Unrest cleared Trakanon, what do you think we should throw at them next?"
or do you think theyre more like: "Ok were losing players and fast, how can we keep the other 1800 people on Unrest logging in?"
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Which translates as:
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Maybe SOE said Fuck you uber dudes, this ones for the little guy, and your e-peen couldnt take it, so you just shat yourselves, sat down and started to cry, rocking back and forth and tearing at your clothes, while patting your head with ashes from the fireplace. (Biblical references ftw)
I think I answered your question quite clearly: Who said this zone was yours? You dont wanna clear t7 for an item, dont clear t7 for an item. You dont like SoH cause it drops loot youve decided isnt appropriate? Dont zone in.
Issue resolved- somehow though, that doesnt do it for you, because you feel your entitled to having the best and brightest in the game all to yourselves, like little kids in the sandbox, ready to bash the kid next to him if he touches his little red fire truck.
Ill tell you the same thing I tell my boy "We SHARE, now stop being a little bully and go sit in timeout until you can learn to play nice with others." /gives baby n00bcakes the firetruck, so maybe, just maybe, he wont leave the sandbox for good, and the kid will have someone to play with when he gets his attitude in order and is allowed out of the corner.

Just quoting something doesn't mean you're replying to it.

You still haven't answered why someone should be required to farm T7 content in order to achieve to their maximum potential in T8.

That is the question you still haven't answered and it's a simple one, too. Now stop going off on fucking tangents and answer it.

Ravanos · 04-18-2008, 01:38 PM

LOL love the firetruck analogy... but but but they worked for that red firetruck!

Uyaem · 04-18-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

Chances are, something is blocking your sense of reason, and I think it might be an enormous sense of entitlement.

You're using the words "sense of reason"? Really?
If you had any, you wouldn't keep asking the same shit that I answered 3-5 pages back. And in like 20 other threads.

Ravanos · 04-18-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kall

Just quoting something doesn't mean you're replying to it.

You still haven't answered why someone should be required to farm T7 content in order to achieve to their maximum potential in T8.

That is the question you still haven't answered and it's a simple one, too. Now stop going off on fucking tangents and answer it.

because thats how the game FUCKING WORKS, sometimes shit in lower tiers is better than higher tiers. GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

good lord you guys cry so much over pixels its insane. now wait for it i know your come back is going to be "well your crying over not being able to attain fabled items" am i right?

well actually im not, if you read any of my posts on this thread i have said someone in full fabled from VP doesn't bother me. good for them, my problem is when that raider in full vp fabled gear starts want to nerf items Joe Noobcake has because he feels joe noobcake hasnt "earned" it.

Alesis · 04-18-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kall

Just quoting something doesn't mean you're replying to it.

You still haven't answered why someone should be required to farm T7 content in order to achieve to their maximum potential in T8.

That is the question you still haven't answered and it's a simple one, too. Now stop going off on fucking tangents and answer it.

My answer is who the fuck cares where the item came from? Who the fuck cares if the item Trakanon drops isnt better than the item Tedrick the Unholy from KoS drops? How does it even matter in the grand scheme of things? So a t7 item outshines a t8 item? Your on top of the fucking game man, and can prolly rape that t7 mob with what? 4 people?
Now put yourselves in the guy who plays 8 hours a week when the kids are in bed. He calls up some real life buddies, all theyre kids are in bed too, and they posse up and go raid a t7 mob with say, 12-16 people and get an AWESOME ITEM!
And so they log in again tomorrow, cause they feel like they accomplished something....I dont see how you dont understand thats good for server populations.
This is the same logic hardcores have about contested mobs. Noone wants to see contesteds stop being contested and get themsleves instanced, cause all of the sudden its a FFA on them, and any old guild can practice them till they can kill them too, and that scares the shit out of the top of the foodchain, cause now your just not as l33t as you where when say Confirmed could relocate to a backwater server like Unrest, and start raping guilds who previously farmed those mobs.
I notice you guys didnt head over to NPUs server for some good old competition, how come?(honestly, i dont even know what server that is, but you get my point)

Ravanos · 04-18-2008, 01:44 PM

I want them to add a dungeon that is only for the hardcore, where all the stats from drops are doubled that of VP loot. however if you die its permadeath.

now THAT would be hardcore.

Pinski · 04-18-2008, 01:45 PM

Wow. That's a great way to look at progression, by not really caring about it because it suits you. I'm sorry that you want all the sparklies, without any of the work.

Uyaem · 04-18-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

You dont like SoH cause it drops loot youve decided isnt appropriate? Dont zone in.

Ah right, because that fixes the problem.
If you hadn't said you worked in lower management, with this kind of thinking I'd have guessed it by now.

kenman · 04-18-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

And on the flip side of that coin, theres already VP and Avatars for the high end crowd right? Ok and well rpetend like Avatars and VP arent in game either.

I don't feel like commenting on the rest of your shit, but this stood out to me as needing to be commented on.

Hey dipshit, what's stopping casuals from doing VP and Avatars? I'll give you a hint: Nothing. The only reason they haven't done them is because they fucking suck. There's literally nothing else to it you retard. They already have content available to them that they're just neglecting to use by improving their own skill.

Your argument is as dumb as saying SoH should have been a zone for people level 10-15. "Bu... bu... those level 80s have no lives and are gay, I'm still level 10 and deserve even more content!" "Don't you have, I don't know, a fuck lot of content still? Everybody else above level 15 will find it totally trivial and retarded." "WTF I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT CONTENT I WANT MY OWN SPECIAL CONTENT WAHHH"
Go fucking kill yourself, Alesis.

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Originally Posted by Ravanos

because thats how the game FUCKING WORKS, sometimes shit in lower tiers is better than higher tiers. GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

good lord you guys cry so much over pixels its insane. now wait for it i know your come back is going to be "well your crying over not being able to attain fabled items" am i right?

well actually im not, if you read any of my posts on this thread i have said someone in full fabled from VP doesn't bother me. good for them, my problem is when that raider in full vp fabled gear starts want to nerf items Joe Noobcake has because he feels joe noobcake hasnt "earned" it.

Holy fuck you're retarded. From a gameplay standpoint, how does it make any sense whatsoever that lesser content should yield better rewards? Your entire argument here is because the game has already been a broken pile of shit in progression that it should continue to be.

There's, you know, supposed to be a carrot you dangle in front of people to make them want to improve themselves and progress. If you take the carrot and just give it to anybody who can kill a solo mob, there's no reason whatsoever to play. It has nothing whatsoever to do with what Joe Noobcake has, nobody gives a fuck.

I'm going to go back to the KoS example. The best tank bracelet came from a collection quest. The best tank rings came from a heroic zone. I never had a fucking carrot dangling in front of me making me want to kill a contested or Cruor or something, I already had them because they took virtually no effort to obtain whatsoever.

God forbid I want to actually be challenged and required to perform difficult tasks to obtain the best gear in the game.