Kall

I don't contribute the solo grind to 80 to player skill. In order to solo well, you pretty much have to do the exact same thing in order to group well and raid well. It's pressing buttons in slightly different sequences to achieve whatever desired result you want.

The "retard and people who suck syndrome" will plague any game that requires pushing buttons, reactions, and awareness. The fact is EQ2 is just the same as any other sport or activity. Even though the majority of the playerbase sucks ass at it, they still have fun.

Pinski

You said BT was broken upon release.

And warlocks in WoW aren't that great anymore at raids. A well-equipped Rogue dominates parses. Also, you want overpowered? You look at Shamans in Sunwell.

And SSC wasn't damn near impossible on launch, it was just overtuned and difficult like DMP. Oh wait, what's that? You mean a raid zone can be hard so that your scrub ass can't beat it?

Please, quit your bitching and acting like you know about WoW. Next thing you're going to say is, Sunwell was obviously broken and wasn't released because of that! Oh wait, we can do this with SOE too, Shard of Hate, Tunarian Throne Room. Seriously, stfu you retard. You know nothing about either game and act like you're super-smart, when in reality you're dumb.

Blizzard is a disappointment now, yes, but whatever. They're also still making the better game, even though the quality IS slipping outside of the PvP area.

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Dilfx

You are fucked up. You agree with me and disagree with me, and you call me the retard. I brought up facts that Blizzard does have the tendency to act like SoE because someone busted out the "Sony sucks! and Blizzard NEVER does this" list. I know EQ2 is fucked up upon every release too, in regards to end-game raiding, but latch on to more wording that favors your opinion and slander anyone who disagrees. I wish my uberness e-peen was as big as yours, because I'd use it to hang you with it.

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Reality

I am suggesting to fix the classes that suck, make them cool again so people want to play them, and then focus solely on content and adding to the classes to make the unique. So what if the Warlock is the top DPS'er!!! So what if the Guardian can soak hits better than any class! Make Wizards and assassins the masters of massive single target damage on a devastating level! Rangers as well! Make Paladins absorb more damage, like a Guardian. Make Zerkers and SK's insanely bad ass DPSing tanks -- that can still absorb damage, just not as well as a Guard and Pally.

Give Clerics the Complete heal! Give Defilers the most devastating slow spell -- and Druids some sweet reactive damage spell buff for tanks! The idea is the shake it up!!!! Make Conjurers and Necros the jack of all trades! Bring back kiting and reverse kiting! Give the Conjurer the best god damn pet tank in the game with a great single nuke spell like a wiz -- but just one single nuke spell! Throw in the Beastlord as well! People have been asking for that FOREVER -- and nothing. All we get is "we will look at adding new classes when the game play is completely balanced" -- are you KIDDING me! Why don't we put Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler in power and everyone give up all their worldly possessions -- and for sports, we can give everyone a 1st place trophy so they can feel "good" about themselves.

I mean Christ!!! -- they are so close to a break through, its scary. But I feel like SoE is insistent to this brainwashed "equality" ideology. I feel like I am taking crazy pills sometimes! Ahhhhhhh........!!!!!!

Cuz

Shhh it's the largest kept secret of the video game world.

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Longduck

Please, never--ever--bring back that spell. It ruined EQ1.

"Recruiting for <insert guild name here>. We already have the guardian and assassin, but still need the twenty-two clerics who can perform a CH chain."

Otis

Here I was getting all tempted to dust off Otis till this thread came along.

Dang

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Nobody wants 24 homogenized "equal" classes. They want balanced ones. There is a big difference.

Longfangz

WoW is a steaming pile of crap, plain and simple. Anyone who is more than a casual player and doesn't get their thrills by jerking off while they PVP is dissappointed by it.

Sadly, I admit to having played the game initially, but it didn't take long to realize that it had far less than most people claim is EQ2's problems with keeping their high end playerbase, and very limited high end content that wasn't either stupid easy or mindnumbing. The one and ONLY thing WoW has over EQ2 is simply publicity. They advertise, people try the game out and say "geez, this game is so easy and fun"... untill you get your 4th toon to max level by easily soloing through the repetitious questlines in under a week and realize it sucks.

Content... yeah, Blizzard is so awesome to have only taken 2 years for the release of the first actual (and thus far only)expansion. Sure, they have patched in a few zones in the meanwhile, but mostly just a handful of broken raid zones that initially get patched in unfinished with mobs specifically made unbeatable without exploits in hopes of giving the blizzard devs a few more weeks to try and finish the zones while raiders beat their heads against their walls at home trying to figure out why they are whiping time after time.

Sure, if you are into PVP, WoW is your game, which is why I switched to EQ2 (after having played EQ1 for many years prior to playing WoW) because even on the PVE servers you are constantly reminded that the game is designed and balanced around PVP, even on PVE servers while still dealing with PVE content. If I could have reached through the screen every time some stupid kid with his /spit emote hotkeyed randaround me trying to get a rise I would be in jail for a very long time. EQ2 PVP is an afterthought, sure it's not the msot balanced, but considering the alternative of your class being balanced for PVP while you are raiding PVE content makes baby jesus cry.

All the reasons people have mentioned above regarding why people are quitting EQ2 is the same reason why people quit WoW, only Blizzard at least advertises whereas most people who are gamers that I know simply ask "What is EQ2?" when I mention it. People don't play in the lowbie zones because it actually takes a little time and effort to level up and get well equipped, whereas in WoW you simply have to take a week to run through the questlines to get to max level solo(and yes, all classes in WoW can solo as the content is so super simple). WoW CS is a joke as well. It takes forever to get actual broken content fixed, but they are super willing to tweak your class based on someone finding a hack and nerfing everyone else in the process to fix that hack. And online GM's? Can you say "The absolute dumbest people I have ever had to talk to" as most are clueless about WoW content and will ban you for making a frowny face while talking to them.

Not to mention the hordes of botters and node farmers that use 3rd party programs to wait at each node spawn in every single zone...

Trust me, EQ2 is not yet dead, but I'd rather play this than WoW again any day even if my toons were still intact and geared if I were to check... the only difference is there are thousands of easy mode players in WoW so it looks like there is more going on there, though most can't manage to finish the simplest dungeon after soloing their way through the levels and have no clue how to group or play their class.

IDK why people are still having issues with RoK instances, as with a little explaination and a few emotes I can do any of them easily using mostly quested/instance leg drop gear in well under an hour (save the chel group I did yesterday with 2 healers who couldn't even heal as well as one decent healer).

EQ2 isn't dead, not yet anyhow till an actual decent MMORPG is released.

Luceus

A big problem EQ2 is having is their refusal to fix the base of the combat system, AA's, etc.

We're at a point where resists mean next to nothing, stats are mostly capped, and some are even approaching caps on the extras like dbl attack, crit, etc. AA's are a joke. Most classes roll with the same spec because they give us so many points to work with but few options to choose from.

So instead of fixing a lot of those issues which would probably allow them more control over mob difficulty, they just keep piling on more crap. Most content in the game seems to be either extremely easy or extremely annoying & frustrating.

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