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Old 05-27-2008, 03:24 PM  
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the fight animations for AOC are much better than eq2.
Motion-capturing, heyo! Of course its better than EQ2 movement.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:58 PM  
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Dude, this is real easy. If you only are getting 3 FPS, then either:

A, your computer does not match the MINIMUM requirements to play the game

or

B, you did not set up the performance options to match your computer

So, which one is it?

(NOTE: Both options make you just as much of a numpty for coming here and crying about it!)
2.2 Ghz Pentium M
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XP SP3
AoC: LOW settings

What part of that does not meet the min Specs? Not the best machine in the world, but hardly a 386.

The fact that I run EQ2 on med settings getting anywhere from 20-40 fps seems to mean to me that AoC is heavily dependant on multiple cores. When there is only 1, it seems to struggle. Im ok with that - was just telling people of my experience. If you want to flame away, then do so: Water\Ducks Back.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:29 PM  
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It's all been said and of course AoC won't kill EQ2.

I am kind of skeptical about AoC though.

There is a lvl 80 cap at release and some people have lvl 40+ characters already (with other alts) a week or so after release? Doesn't seem right to me. In a couple years what will the lvl cap be, 200? Seems like unnecessary e-peen flexing, especially if there is no effort to reach lvl cap.

The lvling speed and the pseudo-instancing of zones bothers me a bit. I think someone already compared the instancing to guild wars. Low zone population does help with lag and allows for more stunning graphics, but it also cheapens the feeling of being part of a community. At least thats how I felt playing GW.

Also, the reports say there are 8+ raid zones, does that mean lvl 80 raid zones or are they spread out through the lvl ranges (one post mentioned something about a tour of a tier 2 raid zone)? Either way it seems a little messed up; no raiding till 80 (next week or so at the going rate) or people have already out-lvled some raid zones.

The game could have done without the very plastic looking mannequin tits (well the whole chick looks plastic imo). People who use tits as a bonus to the game probably just lower the overall maturity of the AoC community. I imagine there are going to be retards saying "Show me your tits!" <add retarded nerd laughing> If you want virtual porn, go play Second Life.

I don't blame people for leaving or for ragging on EQ2's end game. Sometime down the road, the very same people who are praising AoC now will bitch about it's short-comings. It is pretty much the standard life cycle of any MMO game. The true test will be 4-5 years down the road if AoC can live up to EQ2. My gut feeling is no.
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2.2 Ghz Pentium M
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AoC: LOW settings

What part of that does not meet the min Specs? Not the best machine in the world, but hardly a 386.

The fact that I run EQ2 on med settings getting anywhere from 20-40 fps seems to mean to me that AoC is heavily dependant on multiple cores. When there is only 1, it seems to struggle. Im ok with that - was just telling people of my experience. If you want to flame away, then do so: Water\Ducks Back.
I doubt the game relies heavily on multiple cores. Rather, a multiple core processor is generally faster than a single core processor. I upgraded in oct 2007 from an AMD 3000+ (similar to a 3.0ghz intel) to a 2.66ghz intel core 2 duo E6750 and noticed a dramatic upgrade in performance. It had nothing to do with my software utilizing the dual cores as it did that the processor was just better.

Sounds like you are on a laptop, so you probably have a slower hard drive (hence the slow install), slower memory, and slower processor than compared to a desktop. Probably the only thing saving you in EQ2 is your graphics card.

Either way, it sucks that you dished out for AoC and couldn't even really play it =(
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I doubt the game relies heavily on multiple cores.
AoC is optimized for multi-core.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:33 PM  
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AoC is optimized for multi-core.
I didn't really see anything about AoC being optimized for multi-core. But my point was that dual core processors are generally better regardless of what software is running.
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Hmm what will vista 64 enhance over vista 32 in AoC?
(other then 4Gig+ memory)

I haven't switched from 32 to 64 mainly due to lack of/weak driver support.

Intel 8400 3.6mhz (overclock)
4gig 1066 ram
2x EVGA 8800gt 512 SLI
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1k power supply

That should handle most non-raid settings in AoC
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I didn't really see anything about AoC being optimized for multi-core. But my point was that dual core processors are generally better regardless of what software is running.
Unless that software happens to be the EQ2 client, since all cores after the first just sit there idling while the first core does all the work. With EQ2, it's all about the clock speed of one core.
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Motion-capturing, heyo! Of course its better than EQ2 movement.
EQ2 used motion-capturing as well.
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