MonkeyBob

Oh, I dunno.... I saw a DoF retail box at the local EBGames the other day...

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Miroh

Rise of Kunark is the 2nd worst expansion in EQ2 in my opinion. Desert of Flames being the worst.

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Ramone

QFT!

Miroh

Its a shame, Ruins of Kunark was along side Scars of Velious for the best spot in EQ1 imo. They completely killed it in EQ2, was sad really.

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Manratten

See, I think RoK is a pretty dang good expansion, actually.

Generally, people here complain that there are not enough heroic contested dungeons. I agree that there is not a huge amount, but KC, Seb, and Chardok are heroic dungeons. Ever go in these places? Empty. I don't mean 2-3 groups, I mean generally...zero. I can't see how adding MORE contested dungeons is going to be great idea, but perhaps that is just me.

One of the complaints people generally have about Lower Seb, (and actually, some pretty good loot drops down there), is that it is too hard. Then, in the next breathe, people will comment they wish they had more dungeons like Nizara, for the challenge!!

I, personally, really like the instanced dungeon concept. I thought the idea of introducing legendary class stuff for heroics, and fabled class in the epic zones in EoF, a pretty dang cool idea. This has continued in RoK, and for the most part, I think it's pretty solid.

Stuff like the Praetor's Guard dropping off a heroic mob, no big deal. Band of Thuuga from a questline, no big deal. If a small amount of really good items are attainable by non raiders, I don't think that is the end of the world. For the most part, if you want the really good items, you have to raid, don't see any probs there.

Is everything peachy keen, or course not. The stuff that drops off the trash mobs in SoH is pretty comical. That same thing actually happened in FTH with the Gloves of Sagacity, but dang, those were pretty rare. The trash in SoH is laughable, and drops stuff way too often.

I also think SoH itself will stop some guilds from doing much in VP, as well. I mean, I could see 2nd tier raid guilds not even wanting to bother sometimes with VP, because sheesh, why get smoked by Nexona and Druush when you could go obliterate the trash in SoH.

Also, I am not a big fan of Terens Grasp. I don't know what the heck the deal is, but that zone is like slow motion city. This leads to the issue of lag, which I don't have a clue how to fix, but it is frustrating.

But even with the bad things, as I said, I think the expansion is pretty solid.

Laodaron

Number 1. Good stuff coming from solo and heroic? I think everyone's ok with that. The BEST stuff? No way. That's stupid.
Number 2. Stupid != hard. See lower seb vs Nizara.
Number 3. Being forced into one method of playing (ie solofest 2007) is bullshit and should be stopped.
Number 4. The raids were stupid. The dumbest fight of all time in any MMO, Venril Sathir for one example. Plus many classes were just ruled to be not worth bringing along anymore.

ROK was horrible. Worst expansion, barely worse than DoF. KoS is the only expansion that was any good.

Dants

XP rates for killing heroics is the main reason why no one wants to do heroic content.

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dakkota

There always doom-sayers. I honestly like RoK just as much as any expansion. Granted I started raiding mid-way through EoF. How about this, in retrospect im glad I was not around for T6. As long as im not wiping to an easy mob for 3 hours, I think the game is pretty fun. Well i'll address some of the shit I hear bitched about the most.

I think the game could be more fun if there were more *real* contested, not soft ass dominus mobs. Despite what anyone claims about gear progression...Im pretty sure VP/Trakanon/SoH/contested all have gear players would not want to pass up. Soo.....until an instance like SoH makes VP obsolete (it sure as fuck isn't even close) then its just doomsayers and bitching to me, /shrug. Plus I like the way they made it so Trakanon isn't just a zone-in and kill mob everytime hes up. Having to battle through VP each time is well worth his gear since some of his drops have stats akin to mythical items and effects of avatar quality.

In EoF there was desirable loot from almost all the instances, and even the KoS ones. I think players should have to bounce around to every raid instance to gear up. No fun if you just reach the top and farm 1-2 out of 7 instances because each successive one made the other one obsolete. Right now RoK's top end *JUST* about makes T1 - 3 obsolete. Still leaves 5 other good sources of loot drops in the raid content.

As far as fabled from heroic instances verses raid fabled. A lot are good but the majority just don't compare. Compare Jarsath robe to Dark Power robe. Compare Praetors guard to the Trixy Cane. Despite fabled tags there is still loot that rapes a lot of heroic fabled gear, people get too caught up in the labeling.

Difficult thing is that I joined T7 mid-way through EoF. So I entered the scene with 2 expansions (+ island of mara) worth of heroic instances, raid instances and contested mobs. Giving this is only 1 expansion i'm plenty pleased with the amount of content around.

I'll admit theres a tad less bit of questlines to really get into, or ones that take long and really feel like epic lines. Basically all these questlines seem pretty easy mode compared to Claymore and what i've heard of the Prismatic line. But you give people easy quests, they bitch that it goes fast. Give them long quests, they bitch that you have to camp mobs. Make updates based on placeholders, they bitch that you reverted it to easymode again. I honestly don't think God himself could implement something in Eq2 without half the community bitching just because they have fingers and a computer to do so.

Maybe i'm just a simpleton, easily amused, too stoned or just plain unfamilar with the core values/roots of Eq...but I actually enjoy logging on to play. I do pickup groups constantly and raid during the night. I only log on to raid because I have fun doing it. :D

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Jonny

Velious is probably the only thing that could lure me back to play. Funny tho, they managed to push it off for another year. I cant imagine ill try out the one planned for November.

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5) Innovation was non-existent.
6) Teaching your artists / LDs how to occlude properly is apparently something to celebrate.

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