Cozmo_Cereal

i agree T3 n T4 are crazy money every time i put up a box of chain gear (seems everyone rolling brigs) its sold in 3 days or less where T7 can sit and rot before people buy it....fast easy upgrades is the key

Korina

No.

That's the main reason people who no longer craft, who whine about the crafting changes, crafted.

True crafters do it to supply new players, new alts, and otherwise poor players with decent gear. I craft to make sure players aren't running around in whatever drops in a wooden chest for them. And yes, I've inspected players wearing statless gear, so there is certainly a market.

I could make 3x the income adventuring if that's what I wanted. It isn't. I became a woodworker in the first place because no one on Najena would craft a fir wand for under 30g. I thought that was a rip, completely unjust, and needed to be fixed.

I've loved my professional every day since, and even if most of my orders are "Would you please make me a pair of fir batons?" I get just as much pleasure, if not more, from that as making an ebony long bow.

I craft because I like helping people, and those who remain long term crafters long past level 70, despite the changes, despite the fluctuations in prices, despite the slow income, do it because they like it, not as a get rich quick scheme.

The money is nice, but there is a hell of an easier way to make it.

Frankly, if I wanted to make "Phat Platz" without adventuring, I'd sell collection items and harvest rares. I'd make x10 more money.

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Calthine

SEE?!?!?! It's not just me!! Others share my delusion!

Kurizo

Thats exactly what I was thinking. Because you just know its hard as hell to find a lower level crafter to twink your many alts with :D

Panthera

I love what I make. LU24 gave my guild a Sage, Tailor and Jeweler from my accounts. I make some money but I certainly get far more enjoyment out of supplying whatever need is requested. To the point, in order to get ahead of my friend's alts, I had to grind out 7 levels in a weekend at a cost of about 2 plat in raws. All that just to be able to give my friends a full matching set of leather armor with the "Made by Optical" tag. Panthera is a 70 Alchemist but I rarely list anything. But being able to make the fighter spells is a great feeling.

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LFG

It doth when this same problem repeats each expansion!

If you want to be a weaponsmith, you need to wait until the level cap increases again and adventurers have moved on to higher grounds before you will be able to sell T7 rare crafted weapons to noobs leveling up.

This is not a one time problem. This has become a perpetual problem that has existed since the game started and appears that it will never go away.

I play EQ2 to play current content. Not year old content. If I wanted to play old outdated content, I'd go play EQ progression.

Live in the land where I lived a year ago if you wish and continue to craft for alts and noobs. I'd rather clean my bathroom. I've been there, I've done that.

I don't raid and adventure in T3 through T6 content. Why should I? I'm a level 70 adventurer. I raid and adventure in T7 content. Sure, I'm capable of killing easier, lower tier stuff, but why on earth would I want to do that if I can kill current content instead?

And this is the core of what's broken about crafting. The current tier stuff is total crap doesn't even represent value to noobs. As a level 70 crafter, i'll be damned if I'm going to make and backsell what was current a year ago. Because that to me would be like spending my adventuring time killing grey mobs. I couldn't make a fraction killing those grey mobs as I can killing current content that is blue-con or higher to people who are level capped.

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Finesbabe

Well said!

Calthine

I simply don't think it's possible to compare Adventureing, espeically Raiding, and Crafting like that anymore. If it ever really was. Sorry LFG, I think your head is stuck in olde-school, post-launch crafting. Times have moved on. If you ever want to be happy crafting you have to let that all go and move on too.

Crafters have the ability to viably work across all Tiers and levels. How cool is that?

Of course, it's perfectly fine to raid and not craft. Valid playstyle and all that.

But there are weaponsmiths working and selling stuff every day. The class as a whole is not broken. Crafting as a whole is not broken (definately not perfect, definately room for improvement, but not broken). Changes just broke it for you.

LFG

I can't let it go Calthine. We were promised one thing, we spent 1000(s) of hours in reliance on that promise, then all of the rules were changed to destroy the value and community we had achieved working toward that promise.

What I need to do is get in touch with the fact that crafting has been simply reduced to a sideline hobby of casual players, and at the beginning of DoF stopped being an activity that anyone can participate in as their primary role in this game.

In my defense, you've probably noticed that I complain far less about being shafted by SoE for the radical dumbing down of the crafting system than I have done in the past. I think I'm slowly trying to lose my bitterness about all this, but am still some time away from being able to forget about it completely. Maybe in another year or so. I'll just keep on trying to stop thinking about crafting, and hopefully happier thoughts about other parts of EQ2 will replace my contempt for the current crafting system and everythng that lead to its ruination.

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Tokamak

The OP made me cry - where are the MiBs to protect and cosset me?

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