Chapel

While RoK was enough to ruin the game personally for me...cant say I agree with most of what you are saying.

There was more attempt at creatively designed raid encounters this expansion then all other expansions combined. Lots of scripting and unique abilities/events that take place. In PR you have the grp of adventurers that trick you and lock you up, in Pawbuster you have the gate to drop him in, Leviathon was a really interesting different encounter post the changes, VP had a variety of scripted interesting encounters, VS had a variety of abilities that were unique to him...

If you were one of the guilds that was trying VS like 2 or 3 weeks after expansion launched with zero knowledge of the encounter previously...from personal experience let me tell you how hard that encounter and different it was before hand.

Now SOE tests for shit, and sooo much broken shit was released its amazing to even consider...add in HORRIBLE and I mean fucking terrible itemization and you have a recipe for disaster.

While SOE screws up left and right on a majority of other issues their DEV team made one hell of an effort to put in scripted non tank+spank encounters this time around.

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Hoss

I call bullshit on this theory. No on has ever killed nagafen, yet these supposed hardcore types who just want a challenge aren't even pulling him to the best of my knowledge. They even nerfed him by letting us gain 10 more levels.


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feldon30

They are fixing the VP patterns crash "within the hour".

Smart Loot Patterns

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Udoaka

Check your facts friend.

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firamas

Nagafen? Wtf? Taking quest/lore mobs that aren't meant to be killed and then calling that viable raid content is not what we want. The last mob in each major endgame raid zone should be mind blowingly difficult. Byzola. Trakanon. Wuoshi. Etc. Those mobs should have been a serious fucking accomplishment to kill, even towards the end of an expansion. Same thing with contested... except most of them turned out to be piss easy too (hey, is that why most of the avatar loot sucks? did they try to make RvR work? Wait... no... SoH came out at about the same time too...).

Mischief is one of the last encounters that's even fun for me to fight anymore, and only because it can get so chaotic and frenetic. Everything else just makes me question why I'm not playing a game that I would enjoy more.

Answer: I'm an MMO addict. That only goes so far though.

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seethe

doh this is flames, guess agreement is not an option here. my bad firamas post was well written and understandable i felt the need for a compliment.

Firamas i hated your idea and entire piece!

better?

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Hoss

For real? Do tell.

Oh, and I'm not your friend, pal.


-h

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agressiv

Someone in EoF beta used some sort of miracle on a necro pet with STR line or something to kill Naggy.

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LightCC

Problem I have with RoK so far (not into VP yet) is that there are zero zones where you really need to have strict raid discipline to keep the shit from hitting the fan.

Go back to MMIS or DT and try to just run through without having people paying attention, afk, the raid splitting up... You'll wipe. Does any other zone even have repops or extra mobs that, even if you can handle them, are just annoying time wasters if you screw up and get them?

Don't get me wrong, the scripting on the nameds are nice... And I guess I've heard that if you wipe to Doomcoil you get stuck with it in addition to the group in PR, just never been in on a wipe with him. And that's not exactly what I"m talking about...

Vydar

Strict raid discipline?

Try raiding any of the mobs that require you stare at your detrimental window and then react accordingly.

Venril, Byzola, several Avatars, Trakanon

Then you'll know discipline lol

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