The Shadowknight Oddessy - Page 2

Kyuubil · 11-20-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Diknak

lol, I love how he says EQ2 copies WoW's deathknights. The entire class of the deathknight was stolen from EQ1. I bet they were thinking, "hmm, what should we call this class? No, it can't be shadowknight because eq1 has them. I got it! Lets call them deathknights so we are completely original!"

If you want to get technical, both are just copies of blackguards from DnD.

Oakmiser · 11-20-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylvanking

Anyone think it is any coincidence that TSO has put an emphasis on shadowknights?

Are SK's not the FOTM?

WoW introduces Deathknights with WotLk and SOE follows suit by buffing SKs to god mode?

Sure SK's maybe needed some love but not more than any other of the deserving unloved classes.

I hope WoW's next expansion introduces a conjy/druid hybrid type class so those EQ2 classes can get some love.

Thats a shot in the dark. SKs have needed help for YEARS to be on par with other fighters.

Elitherea · 11-20-2008, 07:36 PM

All fantasy material is essentially derived from Tolkien's work, whether anyone would want to admit that or not. There's an almost-exact archetype for every race and class in every STRICT fantasy MMO (so yes, excluding Warhammer, it's equally derivative on a large scale but does include some original classes like witch hunter) somewhere in the Ring trilogy, The Hobbit, or The Silmarillion.

And Tolkien was derivative of no one, so as far as originality, I'd say EQ1 was definitely the first MMO to steal every single one of its ideas from Tolkien. Personally I don't mind, beats the hell out of whatever crazy shit they might have come up with on their own. I mean, at least we're not chasing around mechanical creatures built by gnomes or anything.

SacDaddy · 11-20-2008, 07:42 PM

To the OP:

Yea dude I see it too ITS A GODDAMN CONSPIRACY!

Jorp · 11-20-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylvanking

Anyone think it is any coincidence that TSO has put an emphasis on shadowknights?

Are SK's not the FOTM?

WoW introduces Deathknights with WotLk and SOE follows suit by buffing SKs to god mode?

Sure SK's maybe needed some love but not more than any other of the deserving unloved classes.

I hope WoW's next expansion introduces a conjy/druid hybrid type class so those EQ2 classes can get some love.

There's no cure for idiocy.

JAime · 11-20-2008, 08:15 PM

SK = the new invincible dev

Faabio · 11-20-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elitherea

All fantasy material is essentially derived from Tolkien's work, whether anyone would want to admit that or not. There's an almost-exact archetype for every race and class in every STRICT fantasy MMO (so yes, excluding Warhammer, it's equally derivative on a large scale but does include some original classes like witch hunter) somewhere in the Ring trilogy, The Hobbit, or The Silmarillion.

And Tolkien was derivative of no one, so as far as originality, I'd say EQ1 was definitely the first MMO to steal every single one of its ideas from Tolkien. Personally I don't mind, beats the hell out of whatever crazy shit they might have come up with on their own. I mean, at least we're not chasing around mechanical creatures built by gnomes or anything.

Yea right *******, Tolkien jacked Beowulf of all it's shit son.

Pink Poodle · 11-20-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Elitherea

All fantasy material is essentially derived from Tolkien's work, whether anyone would want to admit that or not. There's an almost-exact archetype for every race and class in every STRICT fantasy MMO (so yes, excluding Warhammer, it's equally derivative on a large scale but does include some original classes like witch hunter) somewhere in the Ring trilogy, The Hobbit, or The Silmarillion.

And Tolkien was derivative of no one, so as far as originality, I'd say EQ1 was definitely the first MMO to steal every single one of its ideas from Tolkien. Personally I don't mind, beats the hell out of whatever crazy shit they might have come up with on their own. I mean, at least we're not chasing around mechanical creatures built by gnomes or anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lor...ngs_influences

We can go the extra mile and say that everything's derived from mythology and stuff.

Uilamin · 11-20-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Elitherea

All fantasy material is essentially derived from Tolkien's work, whether anyone would want to admit that or not. There's an almost-exact archetype for every race and class in every STRICT fantasy MMO (so yes, excluding Warhammer, it's equally derivative on a large scale but does include some original classes like witch hunter) somewhere in the Ring trilogy, The Hobbit, or The Silmarillion.

And Tolkien was derivative of no one, so as far as originality, I'd say EQ1 was definitely the first MMO to steal every single one of its ideas from Tolkien. Personally I don't mind, beats the hell out of whatever crazy shit they might have come up with on their own. I mean, at least we're not chasing around mechanical creatures built by gnomes or anything.

tolkien was derived from from primarily norse mythology

at least the elves, dwarves, the diety structuring (including the good/evil interaction with worldly creatures), orcs and goblins parallel with black elves, heck even wizards almost mirror the minor gods who walked amongst men (Odin). So while Tolkien created the fantasy genre he had strong roots from Norse Mythology in the creation of a lot of his world

Jorp · 11-20-2008, 11:31 PM

For those of you hating on derivatives - don't ever take any kind of medication or use any of the technology you take for granted. Ignorant mother uckers.