Your immediate reaction to Station Cash? - Page 2

Pink Poodle · 12-10-2008, 02:34 AM

Interesting responses. I wonder how Blizzard will pull this off if they go through with something even remotely similar. It's a controversial thing to do in any p2p mmo.

Xalmat · 12-10-2008, 02:38 AM

Where's the multiple choice option?

Honestly, if people want to waste money on fluff, let them. Hell I probably spent a couple $k in LoN cards, what's a few more bucks for a house pet?

Scayre · 12-10-2008, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulforged

MMO's that are Free-to-Play based. Microtransactions work when there's no subscription fee involved. Will be interesting to see how SOE manages to pull it off wanting both.

But yet EQ2 was never a micro-transaction game, now it is? I sure don't want to play this game if it becomes a Micro-transaction world.

SOE doesn't understand what really holds a game together, and that begins with guilds and members of guilds that build strong bonds. They keep introducing new changes that break those bonds, so people quit, or find new guilds. But mostly quit.

Pwnstrrr · 12-10-2008, 02:40 AM

SOE is also obviously playing with the idea of giving a lot of their players free play time based on people recruited.

Let them play with the idea, I doubt most people here couldn't do better from a marketing stand point if they were in the position SOE is right now.

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Originally Posted by Scayre

SOE doesn't understand what really holds a game together, and that begins with guilds and members of guilds that build strong bonds. They keep introducing new changes that break those bonds, so people quit, or find new guilds. But mostly quit.

this I can agree with

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Originally Posted by Scayre

Ad hominem attacks really make you look like you have a fucking clue about what you are saying.

I can see where you're coming from with this...but it's only half true. I provided reason and argument. Whether or not it's factual can't be determined for either side. The proposition by my opposition over the past couple hours is what I could only define as a general consensus. That being that this move by SOE is going to fail horribly and ruin the game. I don't need to prove the contrary I can simply choose to prove that statement to be speculation, and I did.

Many MMOs have used this method prior to EQ2. Should SOE choose to continue using the monthly fee and continue its current course of action with Station Cash then there's no real harm in it, people have said before it's just fluff items and potions readily available to anyone already. If anything its a step up from LON in terms of ingame items because it's not a gamble.

My point? Ad hominem? No sir, I might suggest you go back to your prelaw college studies. The fact that I used personal attacks in my argument did not imply what you thought I was doing to be true.

Example of what you think I was doing:

Nick: I'm sorry. I just don't see the point in a warning label for something people already know.
Senator Dupree: The warning symbol is a reminder, a reminder of the dangers of smoking cigarettes.
Nick: Well, if we want to remind people of danger why don't we slap a skull and crossbones on all Boeing airplanes, Senator Lothridge. And all Fords, Senator Dupree.
Senator Ortolan Finistirre: That is ridiculous. The death toll from airline and automobile accidents doesn't even skim the surface cigarettes. They don't even compare.
Nick: Oh, this from a Senator who calls Vermont home.
Senator Ortolan Finistirre: I don't follow you, Mr. Naylor.
Nick: Well, the real demonstrated #1 killer in America is cholesterol. And here comes Senator Finistirre whose fine state is, I regret to say, clogging the nation's arteries with Vermont Cheddar Cheese. If we want to talk numbers, how about the millions of people dying of heart attacks? Perhaps Vermont Cheddar should come with a skull and crossbones.Senator Ortolan Finistirre: That is lu --. The great state of Vermont will not apologize for its cheese!

Scayre · 12-10-2008, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pwnstrrr

SOE is also obviously playing with the idea of giving a lot of their players free play time based on people recruited.

Let them play with the idea, I doubt most people here couldn't do better from a marketing stand point if they were in the position SOE is right now.

this I can agree with

I can see where you're coming from with this...but it's only half true. I provided reason and argument. Whether or not it's factual can't be determined for either side. The proposition by my opposition over the past couple hours is what I could only define as a general consensus. That being that this move by SOE is going to fail horribly and ruin the game. I don't need to prove the contrary I can simply choose to prove that statement to be speculation, and I did.

Many MMOs have used this method prior to EQ2. Should SOE choose to continue using the monthly fee and continue its current course of action with Station Cash then there's no real harm in it, people have said before it's just fluff items and potions readily available to anyone already. If anything its a step up from LON in terms of ingame items because it's not a gamble.

My point? Ad hominem? No sir, I might suggest you go back to your prelaw college studies. The fact that I used personal attacks in my argument did not imply what you thought I was doing to be true.

Example of what you think I was doing:

Nick: I'm sorry. I just don't see the point in a warning label for something people already know.
Senator Dupree: The warning symbol is a reminder, a reminder of the dangers of smoking cigarettes.
Nick: Well, if we want to remind people of danger why don't we slap a skull and crossbones on all Boeing airplanes, Senator Lothridge. And all Fords, Senator Dupree.
Senator Ortolan Finistirre: That is ridiculous. The death toll from airline and automobile accidents doesn't even skim the surface cigarettes. They don't even compare.
Nick: Oh, this from a Senator who calls Vermont home.
Senator Ortolan Finistirre: I don't follow you, Mr. Naylor.
Nick: Well, the real demonstrated #1 killer in America is cholesterol. And here comes Senator Finistirre whose fine state is, I regret to say, clogging the nation's arteries with Vermont Cheddar Cheese. If we want to talk numbers, how about the millions of people dying of heart attacks? Perhaps Vermont Cheddar should come with a skull and crossbones.Senator Ortolan Finistirre: That is lu --. The great state of Vermont will not apologize for its cheese!

Stop microquoting and perhaps you might have a clue. You said:

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Originally Posted by Pwnstrrr

people need to peace out....SOE is coming up with ways that have been used by fuck tons of MMOS before it to keep itself funded. So long as this money is going towards development I'm happy.

I urge you menstrating crybaby fucktwats to fill out the survey they're holding (/survey).

I put in bold your idiocy.

Pwnstrrr · 12-10-2008, 03:08 AM

So just because you've filled out oh so many surveys you naturally assume everyones on the same page as you? Do you actually know whats done with the information gathered through surveys or do you just like to act like a doomsayer?

Once again speculation and dismissed.

CatpantsMcStabby · 12-10-2008, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Poodle

but how did you react?

I'm thinking it's not as bad as people may think, at the moment. If we're able to /feedback and nerdrage against this enough (and enough people quit), we may stop it from becoming worse than it looks to be. Judging from the hostility on both forums, this will turn into another LON and be ignored in a few months.

I don't even know anyone who plays LON anymore, and only 3 or 4 people that even buy boosters for plat these days.

As long as this stays fluff, and they chill with the xp pots it's the lesser of several evils. Once we start seeing shit that helps beyond xp/aa/etc, then we're done and Eq2:NGE rears its ugly head.

Tristen · 12-10-2008, 03:15 AM

My reaction was simply ~sigh~

Phuket · 12-10-2008, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Poodle

So, this was sudden: station cash. It's all been clarified at http://www.eq2flames.com/general-gam...tion-cash.html - but how did you react?

Me?

I was like "WHAT THE SHIT" and nearly canceled my account right there. I mean I know Sony laid off like 8,000 people [apparently SOE wasn't affected?] but goddamn. I think that shit should stay in F2P games. I'm still teetering now between leaving and staying. Hell, I heard that even Blizzard may do something similar.

But what was your immediate reaction? This mostly a poll thread so yeah.

You are just a simple Gamer. But you really care about this game - addicted. HTML is "Code" for you. That's all i have to say. And i voted "not surprised". Btw, i play a Troll.

Disturbed · 12-10-2008, 03:53 AM

Frankly im not surprised, it's a business after all, aslong as it stays as shit that doesn't really affect gameplay i couldn't really give a fuck, but if they do shit like "Now you can ge Avatar gear for $!!!" because they need more funds, then fuck them im off.