The Most overpowered class is... - Page 5

LFG · 02-15-2007, 11:13 AM

Before the next combat "adjustment", I'll probably be thinking I'm glad I'm not a necro.

Snark · 02-15-2007, 11:24 AM

how can illusionist be tied with swash, nerf illusionists first!!! even though we have it coming..

i just wonder some times how we'd be with the original 100% hurricane, proccing off double attacks, etc

kyros · 02-15-2007, 11:40 AM

wtf... obviously brigand.

and group buffs... God damn... if i don't parse 1,000 more ext DPS with group buffs.

nerf brigands. nerf group buffs. they're overpowered.
oh, and nerf healers. they keep everyone alive longer, making encounters trivial.
thanks.

Ruckus · 02-15-2007, 12:21 PM

Way I see it, from a scout's perspective, assassins, rangers, brigands, and swashbucklers should be close together. Granted, this applies to people who put money and time into their toons. If any of these 4 classes have nearly all master 1 spells, decent gear, and close to 100 AP points, they should be equal in dps. Figure into this equation player skill. The bards are like BASF, they don't do the high numbers damage, but they help to support the dps classes do better damage.

I'd also like to see the brawler classes do better dps that would bump them up a bit and put them on par with the 4 dps scout classes.

Cochy · 02-15-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruckus

Way I see it, from a scout's perspective, assassins, rangers, brigands, and swashbucklers should be close together. Granted, this applies to people who put money and time into their toons. If any of these 4 classes have nearly all master 1 spells, decent gear, and close to 100 AP points, they should be equal in dps. Figure into this equation player skill. The bards are like BASF, they don't do the high numbers damage, but they help to support the dps classes do better damage.

I'd also like to see the brawler classes do better dps that would bump them up a bit and put them on par with the 4 dps scout classes.

Assassin's and Rangers should be above swashys (which they generally are if played right from my experiences) just for the fact that Swashy's / Brigands bring more to a raid than just DPS for the most part.

SOE really needs to decide what they want to do with Brawlers because right now they are 2nd rate tanks and 2nd rate DPS. They either need to figure out how to balance avoidance tanking or just say fuck it and make them a DPS class.

Pinski · 02-15-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LFG

Is a good point - is a class really overpowered if less than a dozen players worldwide have the skills and knowledge needed to play it in a way that makes it overpowered.

Yes. It doesn't matter who or how many play a class, what matters is a class is overpowered. Just because there are so few of a class does not make it right for that class to be overpowered.

Manyak · 02-15-2007, 02:30 PM

i do agree, illusionists are overpowered. BUT as pants said, illusionists with that kind of skill/equipment/knowledge/etc are SO rare, i dont think its as important as necros being overpowered. so if only one class is going to get a nerf, id say necros.

Ruckus · 02-15-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochy

Assassin's and Rangers should be above swashys (which they generally are if played right from my experiences) just for the fact that Swashy's / Brigands bring more to a raid than just DPS for the most part.

SOE really needs to decide what they want to do with Brawlers because right now they are 2nd rate tanks and 2nd rate DPS. They either need to figure out how to balance avoidance tanking or just say fuck it and make them a DPS class.

If they intend to keep the Tier 1-2-3 dps concept, then yes, I agree the rangers and assassins should be more dps and less utility. The brigands and swashbucklers should be in the middle on dps/utility, with the bards being more utility and less dps.

Now, if they are wanting to do away with the tier concept, then give predator spells more debuff stats like the rogue spells are currently set up. This will put all 4 classes on equal-ish status, and the only way for people to be better than others is because people have put money into spell upgrades (master 1/adept3) over adept 1; time to get 100 AP points; and have put the time/money into gearing themselves up.

I think they should give brawlers the AP lines to either be better tanks or be better dps. In a 6 person instance group, a brawler should be able to handle tanking, but in a raid situation, I think that job should go to the 4 plate classes. If a player wants to be a raiding brawler, then their AP lines should boost them more towards dps. If a player wants to be a 6 person group type of player, then allow their AP lines to give them more defensive stats. If a person wants to solo with their brawler, then their AP lines should reflect that option.

This same concept should also be available for the 4 plate tank classes. Give them the AP lines to be more of a dps/debuff/utility player or a MT/ST type of player. If a raid has two well geared and well played plate tanks, but also a few extra paladins/sks/zerks/guards, then allow them to be of some use instead of them having to sit out of a raid due to "too many plate tanks on the raid". These folks should be able to have the option of being able to bring something of value to a raid by doing a respec and coming back as dps/debuff/utility when it is obvious they are never going to be a MT/ST on a raid. These extra plates tend to just reroll another class or just quit the game, because they are never really needed in a raid situation. Three plate tanks should be the max on a raid, IMHO.

Aray · 02-18-2007, 11:25 PM

Seriously, what sicko voted brigand? lol

Illuminator · 02-18-2007, 11:34 PM

Sicko? Naw, we just call em 'tardz.