No GU today :(

LFG · 02-22-2007, 10:57 AM

Next week then, I guess.

I had been hoping for it today.

Looks like I'll have to call Miss Cleo and demand a refund.

Pinski · 02-22-2007, 11:00 AM

Why would it come out today, when they just patched stuff yesterday on test? There's always at least a 2 day break from patching big things before things go live. And anyway, today's Thursday, patches come out on Wednesday.

drychnath · 02-22-2007, 11:09 AM

I wish they'd get this stuff into the game. There are some REALLY good changes in there... Even if they can't make one uber GU with every little thing they want in it in it, hell, even if they need to do a gu 32a and 32b that would be something. they could do a GU with the KoS AA change and the bug fixes they've been working on, etc. Some of this stuff is fully fleshed out and tested and some isn't.

I wonder what their design release structure is like... if it's anything like the one I have to deal with in the engineering industry, i could see why they're waiting.

Johnathon · 02-22-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by drychnath

I wish they'd get this stuff into the game. There are some REALLY good changes in there... Even if they can't make one uber GU with every little thing they want in it in it, hell, even if they need to do a gu 32a and 32b that would be something. they could do a GU with the KoS AA change and the bug fixes they've been working on, etc. Some of this stuff is fully fleshed out and tested and some isn't.

I wonder what their design release structure is like... if it's anything like the one I have to deal with in the engineering industry, i could see why they're waiting.

If they released it early with little testing like they were.. people complain... if they wait till it has a little bit of time to be properly tested.. people complain... Seriously.. I'd rather wait 2 weeks more for stuff to be put in ... than deal with GU bugs of the past...

=)

Laodaron · 02-22-2007, 12:12 PM

LOL, do you think the Test community actually tests things? Almost without fail, every GU, there is some sort of critical error that made to Live. I know there are gonna be bugs, but the Test server really doesn't even need to exist with the lack of testing and bug finding that is done anyway. Just push the GUs live.

Pinski · 02-22-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Laodaron

LOL, do you think the Test community actually tests things? Almost without fail, every GU, there is some sort of critical error that made to Live. I know there are gonna be bugs, but the Test server really doesn't even need to exist with the lack of testing and bug finding that is done anyway. Just push the GUs live.

You're dumb as fucking hell. It's not that the Test community doesn't find the bugs, it's the fact that they don't get fixed.

RadarX · 02-22-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Laodaron

LOL, do you think the Test community actually tests things? Almost without fail, every GU, there is some sort of critical error that made to Live. I know there are gonna be bugs, but the Test server really doesn't even need to exist with the lack of testing and bug finding that is done anyway. Just push the GUs live.

Sounds like you'd make an excellent addition to their team. Armchair QA is easy to do.

I heard in the next two weeks it'll hit Live.

LFG · 02-22-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Laodaron

LOL, do you think the Test community actually tests things? Almost without fail, every GU, there is some sort of critical error that made to Live. I know there are gonna be bugs, but the Test server really doesn't even need to exist with the lack of testing and bug finding that is done anyway. Just push the GUs live.

I was thinking about it. You should start the progression guild you've been talking about on the Test server.

Just think about it, you'll get these benefits:

Low population = virtually no competition for the lower tier contested spawns you want to raid.

Double exp = ability to meet your leveling needs without needing the time of a power gamer.

Integrity = ability to contribute to solutions, rather than just complain about problems.

Laodaron · 02-22-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

You're dumb as fucking hell. It's not that the Test community doesn't find the bugs, it's the fact that they don't get fixed.

Forgot, you probably have a level 70 on Test that you use to test out each GU. Cause I betcha most people don't. The population is just too low. I'm sure they send in their /bug reports and whatnot, but there is no way with that popuation that they are tesing everything. Hence, it makes it live. Then we deal with it.
Sure SoE fucks up and doesn't fix shit, but I'm honestly tired of people sitting around blaming SoE for everything.

In the end, the Test server isn't populated enough and isn't loaded enough to test everything, so a lot of shit makes it live. I'm saying cutout the middle man.

This is funny that I get blasted by 3 people over this too

Integrity. Like I come here and bitch all the time. And what does integrity have to do with saying that the Test server doesn't test everything?

I possibly did come off strong in my first post, but I stand by the fact that while a number of bugs get caught on Test, it would be easier to go live.

Rommie · 02-22-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LFG

I was thinking about it. You should start the progression guild you've been talking about on the Test server.

Just think about it, you'll get these benefits:

Low population = virtually no competition for the lower tier contested spawns you want to raid.

Double exp = ability to meet your leveling needs without needing the time of a power gamer.

Integrity = ability to contribute to solutions, rather than just complain about problems.

Also, you'd annoy the "community leaders" on Test if a guild pulled this off. I'd consider that a good thing

The lack of someone(s) to taunt is the roadblock, methinks.

Laodaron is right about the escaping bugs. Sometimes the Test player do miss them - sometimes they can't be found by the small population - and sometimes SOE ignores the warnings. The last one happens the most, but it's understandable that it looks like, from the outside, that the Test players are clueless morons. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. And some bugs DO get caught and fixed along the way.

I think the holdup on the GU is that Unrest still isn't ready. And if they don't get their heads out of - um, the ground - the word disappointment will generate the most search hits in the new board's young history.