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Old 02-23-2009, 03:01 PM  
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I already stated that I was culling my dps to around 2k. I know how to adjust, any less dps from the group and we would never kill a mob. This isnt the point of the OP. I know Im not in the league of Dants or Ballads, but I know how to group.
If you are as bad as Dant in a group, I would boot you from the group.
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:05 PM  
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:07 PM  
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I almost believed this thread until you "lied" and said you had to lower your dps to 2k.

I have never seen you do over 1k.














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Old 02-23-2009, 03:08 PM  
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Well I did pug's for some time. Each time I joined a group I would tend to find one or two people that would be above the fray (dps, holding agro, healing, etc). I started adding these individuals to my friends list and now all getting a good pug requires is a /w all friends a couple tells and I am up and running. Usually it doesnt take a full group of good players to put together a successful pug, just 2 or 3 + choosing a zone that your current group is cabable of.
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:15 PM  
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A PUG with retarded players? That never happens!
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:19 PM  
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I love PuGs.I mostly do them on my alts(tho my alts are geared better then a lot of mains.) I will only do true pugs of LS and Ef instances. For anything else i pick and choose who i Pick up with. If it wasnt for pugs my choices would be very limited. Yeah i have had many terrible PuGs, but It seems in each I always find 1 or 2 good players I will then add to memory/friends list for when i recruit people for the harder instances.
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:26 PM  
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I am so fed up with PUG's it's making me want to play less and less. My schedule isnt always the best, and I can't always run groups with guildies because of it, so i get stuck with my LFG Tag up and doing things with aweful PUGs.

Yesterday I was in the Scion of Ice group from hell. Almost an hour and a half to do the zone, died 6 times myself, and i solo healed it with a tank who would pull one mob at a time then an entire room. I soloed healed it and was top two in DPS in the group, the troub being the only one beating me on the parse. Hell I pulled agro from most of the names midway through the fight (i could understand on the pull, but midway through i shouldn't be able to by that point). It's just how PUGs are.
QF Mother Fuckin' E

I heard it was just some scrub Gnome Trouby parsin' :D
But hey, it was early and a DD run.
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:27 PM  
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LOL as if your passive aggressiveness isn't transparent. Instead of playing games, why not just come out and tell them to turn the suck down? < ... > I'm sure the group appreciates honest feedback and leadership.
OK, this is Flames, so tossing a grenade like your opener isn't surprising.
I'm curious, though, how that is either leadership or feedback, and how much your PUGs appreciate being told to "turn the suck down"?

Some people will laugh it off and step it up because they're just slacking, downloading porn in the background, cybering some 89-yr-old plat farmer, etc. Some people will be a little stung and try to step it up, even though they're not really sure how. Some will just plain get upset and /quit. Just because you think it's OK to be tactless to strangers you're only interacting with via text, doesn't mean everyone thinks that way.

@OP - PUGs on Blackburrow seem about as variable as they've ever been. I usually figure I'll get some people who can pull their weight and some who can't; if I'm running my main (temp), I try to make sure that at least the tank is in the former category. Most often I can get at least 1-3 known quantities in group before I have to go to the LFG pool. And we do keep a list so we have some sort of plus/minus rating for folks who have impressed or annoyed someone enough to be noteworthy; the plus list is about the same size as the minus list.

If the group is really sucking that badly, and the folks don't respond to constructive comments, I'll usually just say "sorry guys, but this isn't clicking and I'd rather not get frustrated enough to get mad" and take my leave. It's pretty rare for a PUG to reach that point for me.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:00 PM  
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QF Mother Fuckin' E

I heard it was just some scrub Gnome Trouby parsin' :D
But hey, it was early and a DD run.
Hey i wasn't gunna put that gnomes government out there, i just figured i'd leave shit anonymous in case you were friends with those people who were not the best players (in some capacity). They made me really sad that we play the same game as them.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:17 PM  
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their is no way in hell someone who hasent raided before will beable to carry their weight in anything past forge difficulty
That's bullshit. Shard armor and fabled epics will get any group that isn't brain dead past at least 75% of TSO instances.
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