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03-12-2007, 12:21 PM
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Character: Falco
Guild: Confirmed
Server: Unrest
Posts: 542
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Re: SoE are retards.
Changing my last name to "ocide"
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03-12-2007, 12:24 PM
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Character: CoLDMeTaL
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 164
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Re: SoE are retards.
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Originally Posted by Neske
He didn't have one.
He just logged in the day after this happened... and he was banned, still doesn't know why.
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Perhaps for offensive language in public channels? They have been cracking down on that kind of thing recently.
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03-12-2007, 12:31 PM
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Character: Retired
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
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Re: SoE are retards.
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Originally Posted by Panthera
While technically correct, there are contexts that make certain words illegal to say. The word itself may be legal but if you say "bomb" in an airport or "fire" in a theater, you will go to jail.
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Words like the N word are generally considered "fighting words" as a legal term of art.
While such words are not illegal, some courts will allow evidence that such a word was used as a complete legal defense to hitting someone in the face - the same as a self-defense claim.
It's always been my belief that if your goal is to incite a riot or instigate a fight, other words can do an equally effective job, without making the user look like low life trash.
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03-12-2007, 12:37 PM
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Rabble Rouser
Character: CoLDMeTaL
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 164
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Re: SoE are retards.
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Originally Posted by LFG
Words like the N word are generally considered "fighting words" as a legal term of art.
While such words are not illegal, some courts will allow evidence that such a word was used as a complete legal defense to hitting someone in the face - the same as a self-defense claim.
It's always been my belief that if your goal is to incite a riot or instigate a fight, other words can do an equally effective job, without making the user look like low life trash.
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I agree, using the same old worn out words demonstrate a complete lack of vocabulary and creativity.
Things like, "Son of a motherless goat" show creativity and offensiveness without any real social linkage. 
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03-12-2007, 12:53 PM
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Character: Argyuile
Server: Unrest
Posts: 809
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Re: SoE are retards.
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Originally Posted by Panthera
Censorship? So anything and everything should be allowed because to place limits is "censorship?" Again I use my bomb in an airport example. What would happen if such limits weren't in place? Technically, however, you are censored from using that word or even suggesting it. Is it still wrong?
The world isn't so sharply divided as to absolute right or wrong; black or white. The real world is quite grey.
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Yes because yelling fire at a movie and having a bad words as your last name have the same potential for problems.
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03-12-2007, 12:59 PM
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Character: Tokamak
Guild: Quit
Server: EQ2 > soe
Posts: 385
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Re: SoE are retards.
Im not the worlds hugest fan of censorship, and I like that there isnt really a subject out there that is off topic for comedians. Social exclusion is teh suck. Go go gadjet Comedy Store
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03-12-2007, 01:04 PM
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Character: Antarafein & Kajar /KFizzle
Guild: Fellowship of Heavenly Fire/Hi Times
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 1,249
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Re: SoE are retards.
You say lack of creativity? I think it was totally creative! Niggur'Guy was the last name btw, which was what everyone was calling Randy Marsh (Stan's father) during the episode.
BTW As for it being something which could 'start a fight' sure ... but i could start a fight calling someone Fat. Or i could start a fight calling someone a "retard" or saying that i hope they die of Cancer. All of those things would be fine. If it wasnt for the fact that im sure they'd prolly like look at my name right after, i'd change it to "Cracker" Or "Ofay" and i bet those would be fine.
Its a double standard ... but thats not even my problem ... my problem is i shouldnt have been suspended for a first offense, no warning, and its not even like i did half as bad of a thing as MANY other people.
Am i splitting hairs? yeah a bit, but so are most people here who are saying its like saying "Bomb" in an airport.
Are you really equating someone saying bomb, something that could kill dozens to thousands of people, to a word which upsets some people? I mean the two really have nothing to do with eachother, and the analogy really doesnt apply.
But in the end, all i'm saying is, the punishment doesnt fit the crime...(or Kryme), and the Fury doesnt have a last name and doesnt talk in 60-69 (by his own statement, cause someone brought it up here and i asked him). OH and by Kriks/Deludar's thoughts it must be that SOE Doesnt want a guild to succeed that has a black leader (which we do, in the form of Midnyte).
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03-12-2007, 01:10 PM
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Character: Retired
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
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Re: SoE are retards.
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Originally Posted by KFizzle
You say lack of creativity? I think it was totally creative! Niggur'Guy was the last name btw, which was what everyone was calling Randy Marsh (Stan's father) during the episode.
BTW As for it being something which could 'start a fight' sure ... but i could start a fight calling someone Fat. Or i could start a fight calling someone a "retard" or saying that i hope they die of Cancer. All of those things would be fine. If it wasnt for the fact that im sure they'd prolly like look at my name right after, i'd change it to "Cracker" Or "Ofay" and i bet those would be fine.
Its a double standard ... but thats not even my problem ... my problem is i shouldnt have been suspended for a first offense, no warning, and its not even like i did half as bad of a thing as MANY other people.
Am i splitting hairs? yeah a bit, but so are most people here who are saying its like saying "Bomb" in an airport.
Are you really equating someone saying bomb, something that could kill dozens to thousands of people, to a word which upsets some people? I mean the two really have nothing to do with eachother, and the analogy really doesnt apply.
But in the end, all i'm saying is, the punishment doesnt fit the crime...(or Kryme), and the Fury doesnt have a last name and doesnt talk in 60-69 (by his own statement, cause someone brought it up here and i asked him). OH and by Kriks/Deludar's thoughts it must be that SOE Doesnt want a guild to succeed that has a black leader (which we do, in the form of Midnyte).
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If you have a black leader named Midnyte, can I be a leader too if I change my toon's name to Wonder Bread and transfer there? =p
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03-12-2007, 01:11 PM
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Rabble Rouser
Character: CoLDMeTaL
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 164
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Re: SoE are retards.
A guy in my guild has the last name "Hunglikegiant", it gets changed every few weeks, and he waits a bit and puts it back.
However if u use the n-word, or the f-word, and "intentionally" mispell it to go around the built it features to prevent abuse, you gonna get the hammer. The intentional misspelling is probably what got you the ban without a warning. If you get something in that they haven't coded to prevent, i bet you get a warning (then they close the hole).
Change the u to an i and i bet EQ2 would say illegal name and not let you have it.
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03-12-2007, 01:12 PM
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Character: Retired
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 9,124
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Re: SoE are retards.
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Originally Posted by KFizzle
But in the end, all i'm saying is, the punishment doesnt fit the crime...(or Kryme), and the Fury doesnt have a last name and doesnt talk in 60-69 (by his own statement, cause someone brought it up here and i asked him).
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So the fury involved was Kryme?
When I left Nek, his last name was "Ariver". Did he change it?
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