Originally Posted by Gilgame

The Everquest series was the most popular series that soe made, so for them, it makes sense for them to try to revitalize the game. Everquest 1 was great and still is great, but now its way too basic and the graphics totally suck, if they were going to redo all of the graphics for eq1 they might as well make a new game because thats the kind of effort it would take.

Everquest 2 went wrong somewhere down the line, its hard to put my finger on it. but they failed to capture the same feel that eq1 had, why? because they were busy trying to clone world of warcraft as best as possible. eq2 was always too easy, you got what you wanted and it never took too much effort.

Warhammer online thought they would be appealing to the pvp crowd, and they had/have done a valiant effort. but the game couldent support the things it promised. epic warfare? huge contested pvp battles? extreme game balance? maybe someday, but right now the game had its chance and blew it.

Vanguard was suppose to be the next eq1, but SoE was forced to release it early and people left the game buggy as shit and it will never be able to reclaim the fanbase they wanted to originally seek for it.


SoE is not stupid, they know that there is about a 30 million person fanbase for mmos, possibly larger now because of how the recession have beneficially effected the game industry. when vanguard, warhammer and age of conan came out, they had an extremely large playerbase for a month or so before people started going back to wow for its new expansion. if SoE wants to remake Everquest again, they have to do it right:




1. Advertise your product out the balls before and after it releases, this is something that wow always did because they know like any business, your business is only as good as the new customers you bring in and old ones you retain. i never understood why SoE didnt get this, they have been making mmos for 10 years and ive never seen a single tv commerical for any of their games.

2. Make your game the way people want it, World of warcraft has always been and always will be a 'lite' mmo. its easy to get into and easy to log on a couple hours a night and leave with some satisfaction. dont let their success dictate the way you make your game, you cannot compete with them by making the same product, you've already tried with eq2

Remember eq1? it was difficult to do everything, it was hard to get anything and it took HOURS and even weeks, months, YEARS to get what you wanted. you need to bring that back, bring the sense of reward for working on something for so long.

when epics came out in eq2, people were so excited, everyone was doing them because it was a big, huge deal to them, even though eq2 epics were nothing like eq1.

IF you make a game, its gotta be huge right out of the box, it cant be cartoony like wow but it cant be as pretty as AoC either.

3. release expansions every 6 months. you make money doing it and you know it. when eq1 was in its heyday, expansions were full of new content and the playerbase couldent complete all of the content before a new expansion comes out, this prevents people from flocking to new mmos and old ones like wow.

4. lastly, bring the feeling of everquest back. the lore, the huge zones, the discovery, the sense that you were just one person against a huge world.

Originally Posted by Narkle

Wow pink poodle was right for once..

"One of the oldest ways to troll EQ2Flames, and MMORPG players in general, is to mention EverQuest III"

Thanks for participating in my experiment.

Originally Posted by Blanka

...half the time I fail.

Originally Posted by Gilgame

The Everquest series was the most popular series that soe made, so for them, it makes sense for them to try to revitalize the game. Everquest 1 was great and still is great, but now its way too basic and the graphics totally suck, if they were going to redo all of the graphics for eq1 they might as well make a new game because thats the kind of effort it would take.

Everquest 2 went wrong somewhere down the line, its hard to put my finger on it. but they failed to capture the same feel that eq1 had, why? because they were busy trying to clone world of warcraft as best as possible. eq2 was always too easy, you got what you wanted and it never took too much effort.

Warhammer online thought they would be appealing to the pvp crowd, and they had/have done a valiant effort. but the game couldent support the things it promised. epic warfare? huge contested pvp battles? extreme game balance? maybe someday, but right now the game had its chance and blew it.

Vanguard was suppose to be the next eq1, but SoE was forced to release it early and people left the game buggy as shit and it will never be able to reclaim the fanbase they wanted to originally seek for it.


SoE is not stupid, they know that there is about a 30 million person fanbase for mmos, possibly larger now because of how the recession have beneficially effected the game industry. when vanguard, warhammer and age of conan came out, they had an extremely large playerbase for a month or so before people started going back to wow for its new expansion. if SoE wants to remake Everquest again, they have to do it right:




1. Advertise your product out the balls before and after it releases, this is something that wow always did because they know like any business, your business is only as good as the new customers you bring in and old ones you retain. i never understood why SoE didnt get this, they have been making mmos for 10 years and ive never seen a single tv commerical for any of their games.

2. Make your game the way people want it, World of warcraft has always been and always will be a 'lite' mmo. its easy to get into and easy to log on a couple hours a night and leave with some satisfaction. dont let their success dictate the way you make your game, you cannot compete with them by making the same product, you've already tried with eq2

Remember eq1? it was difficult to do everything, it was hard to get anything and it took HOURS and even weeks, months, YEARS to get what you wanted. you need to bring that back, bring the sense of reward for working on something for so long.

when epics came out in eq2, people were so excited, everyone was doing them because it was a big, huge deal to them, even though eq2 epics were nothing like eq1.

IF you make a game, its gotta be huge right out of the box, it cant be cartoony like wow but it cant be as pretty as AoC either.

3. release expansions every 6 months. you make money doing it and you know it. when eq1 was in its heyday, expansions were full of new content and the playerbase couldent complete all of the content before a new expansion comes out, this prevents people from flocking to new mmos and old ones like wow.

4. lastly, bring the feeling of everquest back. the lore, the huge zones, the discovery, the sense that you were just one person against a huge world.