The EQ2 Heroic Opportunity system needs a HUGE reworking - Lets brainstorm. - Page 2

Ladred · 03-20-2007, 12:30 PM

I really like the HO system, and agree that it needs a little help. I think the way the system functions is spot on, but the resulting effects are weak. They don't scale with level like they should and the last reworking of the abilities changed some of the abilities for the worse. Case in point is the Crippling Shroud ability. This was a must have HO prior to the last revamp. In essence this put a slow shield on the reciever of the buff. Any mob that hit the person with this buff would get an attack speed decrease. I suppose some saw this as over powering, but it was a great effect that made the difference in a lot of fights. Now the crippling shroud does nothing but add a haste buff to the reciever of it, which isn't crippling at all. I've not seen a site yet that had all of the current HO effects documented. So that would be my first suggestion, document them, then pick through them and find which ones really need help.

Crippling Shroud = Should go back to being a slow shield!

Pylon · 03-20-2007, 01:16 PM

Great ideas for the HOs, but you have to remember....the content, raid, group or solo is not difficult enough to require such complex HOs. They would also probably have to re-work alot of encounters, or do it in T8.

Pinski · 03-20-2007, 04:24 PM

HOs are fine the way they are. But they need to add more of them. There are HO icons that are unused. What they need to do is expand the HO system to include those, make it so some HOs require multiple of archetype triggers. Expand them out, make them more powerful.

Pylon · 03-20-2007, 04:47 PM

There still isn't a ranged HO.

Ishbu · 03-20-2007, 06:07 PM

Snark - I am dead serious that if they change my HO starter to a longer recast this will considered 10x dumber than anything you have ever said or done. And you remember what happened about juke box hero dont you?

Snark · 03-20-2007, 06:58 PM

i did some rewording, reworking.. to make it more clear what I was talking about:

HOs work as follows:
HO's can only be triggered and advanced by clicking the current HO trigger button.
When the desired HO is reached, the original HO starter clicks their button again, completing the
HO. If the person does not click their button a second time in 5-10s, the HO disappears and no recast timers are imposed.

This essentially re-creates the wheel. Its dynamic. Its not random, and it cant be advanced/flipped. Gone are the days of spamming fucking up HO's.

HO Chain Length and HO trigger recast penalty of those involved if HO is successfully completed
1: 1 minute
2: 10 minute
3: 30 minute
4: 60 minute

scout: inflicts 6k on target
priest: heals target for 5000
mage: inflicts 6k on target
fighter: taunts target for 3000

double-teams (in any order)
scout, scout: both scouts hate+20, dps+20 (for 7m)
priest, priest: both healers heals upto +75 (7m)
mage, mage: both mages spells +75dmg (7m)
fighter, fighter: both fighters haste+20, dps+20 (7m)

2-other (in any order)
mage, scout: decreases casting time and recovery by 25% of both (7m)
mage, fighter: for both: when target dies, will heal for 25% hp (antideath for 7m)
mage, priest: decreases hate gain of both by 15% (7m)
scout, fighter: increases combat art dmg by 100 (7m)
scout, priest: increases proc % for both by 5% for 7m
fighter, priest: increases hate gain of both by 15% (7m)

i can think of lots of cool 3/4 combos but will save those for later

Rampagious · 03-20-2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishbu

Snark - I am dead serious that if they change my HO starter to a longer recast this will considered 10x dumber than anything you have ever said or done. And you remember what happened about juke box hero dont you?

fuck your HOs, fucking selfish kid