Questions about raiding guilds and alts/mains

Denuve · 03-21-2007, 09:48 AM

Just a few questions for the raiding guilds out there, if you dont mind answering.

1- Do you allow your raiders to have alts in casual guilds?

2- Do you allow an alt in your guild as a raider, but let them keep their main in casual guild?

3- How do you deal with the above situations if they come about?

Non-raid guilds, answer this if you like.

1- How would you feel if a main in your guild had an alt in another guild as a raid toon?

2- Would the above situation impact your guild good or bad?

A few of us officers were talking about this in our guild, and I was wondering what the raid side of the coin would say.

Thanks for your time,
Denuve

arieste · 03-21-2007, 10:46 AM

The question you want to ask yourself is:

Would this create a conflict of interest?

- if someone needed at raids would ever be torn between leaving a group with their "other" guild to do something required by a main, then it's a conflict.

This is just one example, but there are many potential conflicts.

Why does the person go outside the guild in the first place? If you guild raids only raids saturdays but a person is also free sundays and would like to raid on alt, there is no conflict in them raiding with another guild. But why would they actually need to have their guild tag? My guild has a couple of non-guild raiders who's guild doesn't raid. They have their own guild tag, but for the sake of raids, they are as much members of ours as anyone.

If your guild doesn't RP but someone would like a hardcore RP guild with an alt, there is not likely to be conflict of interest unless events are scheduled.

Also you gotta remember that a person can always make an alt and not tell anyone. The fact that a person asks permission to be in another guild with an alt is likely a sign of respect for the guild.

So back to start: Will it create a conflict of interest? What do they plan to get out of other guild? Do they really need that guild's tag to get it?

More hardcore guilds probably have strats and spawn times to protect, but that's not something I can answer about.

Davroth · 03-21-2007, 10:51 AM

Not currently an officer in a raid guild, however, happy to comment.

Do you require an attendance level from your raiders? If so problem solves itself.

Depends on what you call a raid guild. My definition of a raid guild would be making consistant progress in content, attempting to kill mobs in the CURRENT expansion and possibly even getting server first kills / server discoveries. Members performance is paid attention to and if they are not pulling their weight they will get bumped for soeone who does. Membership in the guild does not mean a spot on the raid.

Some guild like to raid, but are not what I would call a raid guild. They get 24 people together to hit KoS zones and a mob or two in EoF zones. Allow members to float in and out for the raids, and if are missing a few key classes the 6 or so regulars rotate in their alts to cover those. problem here ends up being the raid force never seems to really get geared up. Progression stalls and then you bleed players, and the cycle starts all over.

Some raid guild only raid 3 nights a week and don't place any other time requirements on their members. Would think an alt in another guild would not be a problem as long as your raider in your guild was showing up to your raids.

Our guild raids 5 days a week.

Unless the person has nothing else to do and joins a guild in a completely different time zone I do not see how they could pull it off.

Why raid with an alt and not your main.. makes no sense to me.

So if I were running a guild and trying to really do some serious raiding, I could see allowing alts in other guild if and only if there were some set in stone attendance rules for raiders in my guild getting spots on the raids and getting loot. If that persons alt in another guild starts impacting my raids that person needs to make a choice.

Johnathon · 03-21-2007, 11:23 AM

My guild allows alts >65.

the lowbie alts can do whatever they want.

Zahne · 03-21-2007, 12:00 PM

This subject has turned into a pretty heated debate for us at least.

Gori · 03-21-2007, 12:25 PM

If the person is open and honest about the situation with both guilds, maintains the standards of each guild (attendance, helping guildies, etc...), and neither guild has a vested interest in regards to "inside information" being leaked, then I don't see why it should be a problem. I would understand an elite guild having a prohibition, but otherwise, it is sort of close minded to essentially have a rule which states "one guild tag per account."

Falco · 03-21-2007, 12:50 PM

1- Do you allow your raiders to have alts in casual guilds?

Yes

2- Do you allow an alt in your guild as a raider, but let them keep their main in casual guild?

Not at all really. Some apply here on their alt as thats the class we need. So it no longer would be an alt it is a switch to their main.

3- How do you deal with the above situations if they come about?

They are allowed to have they alt app to the guild, but they wouldnt be able to participate their ex main in raids that were in the same tier with another guild, basically it is retired from raiding, unless it is alt raids within the guild.

Thanks for your time,

No problem

Argyuile · 03-21-2007, 01:58 PM

1- Do you allow your raiders to have alts in casual guilds?

We have a limit on the number of alts you can have IN the guild. If you want to have your alts in a different guild go for it.

2- Do you allow an alt in your guild as a raider, but let them keep their main in casual guild?

This just sounds like semantics to me, what a main and whats an ALT. They have a main in OUR guild and as long as that character isnt locked out of shit when we are going we dont care.

3- How do you deal with the above situations if they come about?

We only really care about one character as long as that character can do the content we are doing when we are doing it, alts are irrelivant.

Kyrsten · 03-21-2007, 02:01 PM

What if an officer in your guild wanted to tag another character into another guild. Do you feel he should still be an officer? Do you feel this would impact the guild's reputation in any way?

Argyuile · 03-21-2007, 02:51 PM

I have a job that I work from 8-5, in addition to that I do contract work anywhere from 5 to 25 hours a week. As long as my 2nd job isnt effecting my first why should my first job give a crap?