Diknak

Thanks for the information. Yeah, I got a better heat sink and got rid of the stock, so I don't think that would be a problem.

Morara

Still won't run EQ2 well without one of those components rewriting the engine on the fly.

I don't doubt it looks okay to you, but those framerate claims are bullshit that even Illuminator couldn't top in a political thread.

Actual numbers with the specs you provided, I'd guess they hover between 20 and 40fps with all settings maxed, which is unacceptable.

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Pitty

Well i'm running a i7 920 with a gtx260 and 6 gig ddr3 triple channel and windows 7 x64, im only running in 1680x1050 max monitor rez.

i do get 60fps easily with max settings, but it can bog down to 20 in places like guild halls and crowded places.

I have vsync on because i like the smoothness, but if i took it off i would probably be 100's in some places. Of course max frame rate doesn't mean jack shit, it's the minimum that matters, and that's where some optimization of the eq2 engine would really come in handy.

Full scenes of lighting and shadows are the real killer, you'll notice if you set shader distance to 0 it turns off all shadows and lights making the game extremely playable but looking like ass.

I played with shaders set to 0 for the last 4 years, because any pc i had up untill my recent I7 just couldnt cope with shaders. Even still the I7 struggles in some places heh.

I dunno what point i'm trying to make, but i will welcome shader model 3 any day if it brings my minimum frame rate up. Nothing kills immersion in a mmo like poor framerates.

As far as the new GPU shadows go.. well... i think its a bit of a hack job to be honest. The new I7's can cope fine with the mathematically correct CPU shadows so i'll leave GPU shadows disabled till it's been through a few iterations.

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Morara

That's exactly it. Spots of great performance are nothing, when the average is through the floor. We need modernization yesterday.

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Diknak

Yeah, I also noticed that changing the shader to 0 would drastically improve performance. It seems that the shader and particle effects are the real killers now that we have GPU shadows.

GPU shadows look amazing . . . when they are right. There are so many spots right now that have gray lines through them or flickering shadows (in the void zones specifically) that it can be a little annoying. The CPU shadows just cause too big of a hit in fps, so I will deal with the sometimes crappy GPU shadows for now. The line that controls how far out they are pixilated and when they smooth out is too close to the camera right now and could also be moved out.

Valdrane

False, black bear.

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Flaming Homo

You said they look nice, I said they look at shit that appeals to dain bramaged kiddies. LOL at the Doorknob that failed reading comprehension.

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Filth

I know this thread is old but i just had to point out the fact that you are a total stupid ass. Only the most ignorant stupid fucks out there are still claiming PC to be a "bad" platform in ANY capacity. Your ignorance is painful and your stupidity insulting.

CoD4 is a game optimized for quad core and its #2 on the list you stupid fuck. The fact that ppl are talking about OCing for a game made in 2004 SAYS NOTHING about the sate of PC gaming and only a moron would think so.

The reason specs dont SEEM as important any more is for two reasons. Hard wear is still getting faster and cheaper. Second, games that come out now are almost all balanced around consoles so games like CoD:WaW still run fine on video cards from a few years ago. When the new gen of consoles come out the cycle will start all over, what kind of shit faced idiot hasnt cought on to this yet?

Also, no one really gives a fuck about just the top ten games. The sims and WoW dont reflect the entire PC gaming population. I really cant see any one with more than half a fucken brain being stupid enough to think they do either. Because in fact, most of the ppl playing WoW and the Sims DONT PLAY any other PC games at all besides those. This debate was over a long time ago and im suprised any one would be stuipid enough to bring it up again.

firamas

are any screenshots of this shit available, now that FF is over?

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Pitty

Pics would be nice

Taken from eq2wire:
Shaders 3.0
EQ2 is getting a graphical facelift!
Shaders are small pieces of code which take the textures and apply an effect to them, providing metallic appearances, glows, bump mapping, caustics (rust, decay), lighting effects, etc.
These are being upgraded from the ancient Shaders 1.0 to Shaders 3.0. Nearly any graphics card since GeForce 3 will be able to handle the new GPU Shaders. At higher resolutions, preliminary tests have shown that framerates stay largely the same. At lower resolutions, framerates of GPU shaders seem significantly improved.
This will not be a substantial download. Each shader is just a few kilobytes. So far, 3,000 shaders have been upgraded.
Nek Forest looks awesome now. The whole idea of a torch in the darkness, lighting up trees, rocks, and enemy mobs looks head-and-shoulders above the current “flat” pea soup grey haze and flat colors on everything.
When the EQ2 developers saw the first screenshots, they thought it was another game.
In addition, Flora Displacement which moved to the GPU last year will still get further performance tweaks (known issue on nVidia cards).
Finally, he’d like to move particles to the GPU but due to some design decisions, some particles are tied to animations. Will have to go back and separate them out.
There is developer interest in a torch slot, so this is being considered. Devs would also like to do High Dynamic Range (HDR) in a future update, but nothing is immediately planned.

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