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Old 07-07-2009, 12:09 AM  
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There is no way to really tell, but I am pretty confident you are wrong, mit seems to scale by level, so to me it would seem that 0 mit for a level 80 would be a different value then would be 0 mit for a level 90. It isn't above reason that the 0 mit point would move at each level especially if you are claiming the damage numbers move depending on level. Essentially you are claiming dmg numbers move but we never see it, but we do see mit numbers move when you level. It would also make more sense, avoid scales exactly like that why wouldn't resists and mit? I'll take the stuff we can see over the stuff we cannot TBH.
Um please stop talking....
Lets see no way to tell right.

How about you read the fucking patch notes. Do you even have a clue how to play this game. This took all of 1 minute to look up. I even explained when were and why they changed it.

Subject: Live Update #13: September 13, 2005 (Desert of Flames)


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- The Desert of Flames expansion pack is here!

- The long-awaited combat changes are upon us!



*** Changes to Combat and Spells ***





- Removing damage mitigation from NPCs so that your spells and arts do damage in the range listed when you examine them.

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drop some LU13 nawladge on doz foos

BITCH PLEASE, IF IT DONT MITIGATE, IT AINT LEGIT
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:32 AM  
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Um please stop talking....
Lets see no way to tell right.

How about you read the fucking patch notes. Do you even have a clue how to play this game. This took all of 1 minute to look up. I even explained when were and why they changed it.

Subject: Live Update #13: September 13, 2005 (Desert of Flames)


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*** Headlines ***



- The Desert of Flames expansion pack is here!

- The long-awaited combat changes are upon us!



*** Changes to Combat and Spells ***





- Removing damage mitigation from NPCs so that your spells and arts do damage in the range listed when you examine them.
Your quote is useless and not even relevant to the argument, grats on being a fucking dumbass.

So fuckface that doesn't mean 0 mit is 0 mit against a higher level we have already proven you can go negative mit. Your reading comprehension is below retard level.

Press P look at your mit, it says you will absorb x amount of damage against a mob of your level. This suggests that if the mob is a higher level you will probably absorb less, low and behold if you test it a higher level hits you harder. Now faggot, imagine instead of you saying the reason why a level 90 hits a level 80 mob harder isn't because he is hitting for more it is because that 0% mit is actually -10% mit because of the 10 level difference. It would be consistent with the rest of the fucking game, unlike your crazy made up shit about hitting for more damage because you are a higher level.
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drop some LU13 nawladge on doz foos

BITCH PLEASE, IF IT DONT MITIGATE, IT AINT LEGIT
This is the same stupid fuck that tried to argue with me that avoidance wrist adorns check against level. Anything he says should be immediately laughed at.
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Your quote is useless and not even relevant to the argument, grats on being a fucking dumbass.

So fuckface that doesn't mean 0 mit is 0 mit against a higher level we have already proven you can go negative mit. Your reading comprehension is below retard level.

Press P look at your mit, it says you will absorb x amount of damage against a mob of your level. This suggests that if the mob is a higher level you will probably absorb less, low and behold if you test it a higher level hits you harder. Now faggot, imagine instead of you saying the reason why a level 90 hits a level 80 mob harder isn't because he is hitting for more it is because that 0% mit is actually -10% mit because of the 10 level difference. It would be consistent with the rest of the fucking game, unlike your crazy made up shit about hitting for more damage because you are a higher level.
Retard mit scales
News flash NPC's DONT HAVE MIT. You are a fucking idiot. Go suck a dick.

This couldnt be anymore more clearer. Only a complete and fucking retard would continue to argue. O look we have Blanka here arguing a direct fucking statement from the developers. Let us break it down for him because he is special. "REMOVING DAMAGE MITIGATION FROM NPCs"..... Lets see what does that mean.... NPCS DO NOT HAVE MITIGATION. Please do continue on your retard tirade rant.

- Removing damage mitigation from NPCs so that your spells and arts do damage in the range listed when you examine them.

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This is the same stupid fuck that tried to argue with me that avoidance wrist adorns check against level. Anything he says should be immediately laughed at.
You are special. Lets go over this again shall we.... Uncontested avoidance is only modified by mob level and is not a contested roll vs mob skill. If you need further clarification on uncontested avoidance please go look up the EOF patch notes. I am done trying to explain basic mechanics to you. You are a shit ass fucking retarded player.

Edit- btw here is another direct qoute from Lu13 regarding the removal of mitigation. It really can't get anymore clearer then that for you. If you are still to stupid to understand then there is no help for you.

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- NPCs no longer mitigate the damage done by spells and combat arts. When a damage spell or art lands on an opponent, its damage should fall within the range shown in its examine information.

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Retard mit scales
News flash NPC's DONT HAVE MIT. You are a fucking idiot. Go suck a dick.

This couldnt be anymore more clearer. Only a complete and fucking retard would continue to argue. O look we have Blanka here arguing a direct fucking statement from the developers. Let us break it down for him because he is special. "REMOVING DAMAGE MITIGATION FROM NPCs"..... Lets see what does that mean.... NPCS DO NOT HAVE MITIGATION. Please do continue on your retard tirade rant.

- Removing damage mitigation from NPCs so that your spells and arts do damage in the range listed when you examine them.
HEY STUPID MOBS HAVE MIT ITS AT 0 THATS A VALUE ITS NOT NIL ITS 0 THERE IS A DIFFERENCE WHICH YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND.

IF THEY HAD NIL MIT THEN WE WOULDN"T BE ABLE TO FUCKING DISPATCH THEM AND DO MORE DMG RETARD.
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You are special. Lets go over this again shall we.... Uncontested avoidance is only modified by mob level and is not a contested roll vs mob skill. If you need further clarification on uncontested avoidance please go look up the EOF patch notes. I am done trying to explain basic mechanics to you. You are a shit ass fucking retarded player.

Edit- btw here is another direct qoute from Lu13 regarding the removal of mitigation. It really can't get anymore clearer then that for you. If you are still to stupid to understand then there is no help for you.

NPCs

- NPCs no longer mitigate the damage done by spells and combat arts. When a damage spell or art lands on an opponent, its damage should fall within the range shown in its examine information.
LOL lets put it this way, players have mit right? Do you think when it says 50% absorb vs a lvl 80 opponent it isn't a lower level of absorb against a lvl 81 opponent? That makes sense right, now what if you made that players mit 0% do you think they will still get hit for more by the 81 opponent or will they magically just get hit for the same? It completely blows my fucking mind your quote something from fucking 3 years ago in your argument which has absolutely no fucking support from anything ever said.
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Note the following -- paraphrasing what appears to be the case from prior posts:

Crabbok is by all accounts one of the best players in the game. (Check the recent legendary player awards, the leaderboards etc.) He attended a Fanfaire panel on the gear changes in Sentinel's Fate, and was told that his current gear would lose 2/3rds of its effectiveness as he progressed to and reached level 90. The example he cites is the avatar disease charm -- it would proc only 1/3 of its current rate, and also lose 2/3 of the other attributes as he reaches level 90.

Crabbok's reaction? He returned from Fanfaire and put his toon up for sale on Livegamer. This is an astounding toon, with years of skill, work etc. behind it. Why sell? Perhaps because all the work he did on the toon will be of little use as of next Feb when his existing gear becomes useless. And because he has nothing left to do with that toon in the game between now and Feb. Why strive to obtain gear that will be useless as of February?


I hope what Crabbok was told at FF was incorrect, or that the dev's reassess the 2/3 gear downgrade. If current gear loses 20-30% of its effectiveness as you progress to 90, that's one thing. If even the best avatar gear loses 2/3rds of its productivity and becomes essentially useless at level 90, ......
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Crabbok said he was getting the fuck off the Bazaar server, not leaving the game. You don't accomplish that with a transfer.

The gear degradation will only really piss off the avatar guilds. Everyone else will just move from shitty shard gear to shitty quest gear and be none the wiser.
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