Asslik's fighter revamp is back on? - Page 3

Hoss · 07-06-2009, 02:23 AM

Yeah, i was gunna ask what DD meant too. Everytime I try to think of an answer, all I can think of is a big ole set of titties.

Mishy · 07-06-2009, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Noodle

i have no idea what you mean by 'DD'.

think he's referring to the folks that do nothing but instances.. i.e., the daily double or DD..

but, hell, it's been so long since I've done an instance or pug that I don't even know the term for them anymore.. in my mind they're just "the people I don't raid with" :P

Ebarel · 07-06-2009, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Noodle

No, i believe the changes are for casual fighters in PUGs with raid players. As it is now, a casual tank with no mythical and just instanced gear stands almost no chance in tanking a mythical raid dpser.

But then again, i have no idea what you mean by 'DD'.

what's wrong with that?

curuw · 07-06-2009, 05:41 AM

wtf^^
DD means damage dealer -.-

Koinoo · 07-06-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by curuw

wtf^^
DD means damage dealer -.-

It would've been easier if people would just type out "DPS class" or "damage dealing class", but people are too lazy to deal with the extra typing for easier comprehension these days I guess. It's all part of that "leet" player speak or some such!

Noodle · 07-06-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebarel

what's wrong with that?

Nothing is wrong. In fact i think it's a much needed change. As it is now, you have to be myth'd to simply tank for myth'd players in a group.

We need to think about the game for the other 95% of players out there as well.

Orochan · 07-06-2009, 12:56 PM

It could just be the fact that 95% of the tanks out there sucks balls, and have no idea how to play their class.

Kurzan · 07-06-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sintorah

That leads me to the question if a casual DD player will "work" with raiding pugs, which means, he'll be able to dps almost like a full fabled DD...

Wasn't there some talk a while back about how SOE thought the difference between raiders and more casual players had gotten too large, and they were looking to normalize it in some way so that they could effectively group together?

If they go down this road, all I see is an incoming clusterfuck.

Diknak · 07-06-2009, 01:13 PM

I am glad to hear this. The fighter revamp was a good idea, but just done poorly. The tank should be able to keep agro without having x class in the group for hate transfer. It is stupid as shit for a tank to HAVE to rely on hate transfer. I think it should still be in the game to make things easier if they are around, but it shouldn't be a necessity like it is now. In order for a tank to be "good" at playing his class, it is necessary to spec for dps instead of survivability. It should be a choice to sacrifice dps for survivability or the other way around.

The way it is currently set up, anyone that is a fabled raider has no problem staying alive, but if a casual tank specs 100% on dps, they can't survive for shit but can hold agro. And if they spec for 100% survivability, they can't hold agro. It is a broken system that the hardcore community (ie: "good" player) has been able to work through with gear.

Zykdous · 07-06-2009, 01:46 PM

Going off on what you said, Diknak, it sounds like.. a hate transfer should only be so that one certain dps class (the one that has the hate transfer) doesn't keep pulling aggro from the tank. NOT so that some other dps class doesn't pull aggro because this first dps class has his hate transfer on... Correct?