Loudness

not a valid point, because some guilds (ie strike) have no competition because they are on a lame server that nobody plays on

Henladar Bloodheart

You just keep on proving the point that pussys love my dick. But this time im going to have to ask you to get off it. You can't let go can ya?

Odysee

yeah i would disagree with the point that those guilds are leauges above everyone else. I can think of 2 that would certainly under almost any critera be up there with those guilds (strike and Aftermath) come to mind, and im sure some people could think of others.

I am curious to know under what basis you would say that they are not at the same level as the above mentioned guilds?

Cupcake

I don't know who you are, but I'm guessing you're a member of one of the mentioned guilds. Don't get me wrong, Aftermath and Strike have pulled out some stops and are certainly good guilds... they're just haven't got that x-factor, you know?

Like I said, I don't think there is, nor needs to be a criteria for this expansion - people just know who the top guilds are. NPU, Disso, SD and CL just have the consistency that other guilds don't. If you used a tierd system with points, for example 5pts for a WW1, 3pts for a WW2 and 1pt for a WW3, those four guilds would hoard practically all of the points between them.

Maybe I'm wrong, but most people wouldn't class Aftermath, Strike, Paradigm, etc with the guilds I mentioned. Not unless there was bias involved.

But alas, this thread isn't about my opinions on who are the best guilds, nor yours. It's about coming up with a criteria, if such a thing can be done so I'll refrain from following this line of thought further.

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Henladar Bloodheart

There is an odysee in strike yes... is that the odysee above? im not sure.
What Odysee is basically getting at (i think) is while CL NPU SD and Disso have most the top 3 kills at least those 2 have some this expansion and kill shit in a semi-consistant rate. That is what i think im gathering.

Im curious cup... since that post asks for the top 5... who would you put as 5?

Aralas

since this is Top 5, why not 1st's 5 2nd 4 3rd's 3 4th's 2 5'ths 1

simple enough?

though you cant always go by that, i mean guilds get shitty luck and get repeat avatar's which sucks but all well eh?

Henladar Bloodheart

Do people even keep track of 4th's and 5th's? I barely keep track of 3rd's and 2nd's

Cupcake

If I had to add a 5th, I would probably add Aftermath since they were also a pretty solid guild before EoF.

That being said, I wouldn't go past top 3 and thats a whole different debate.

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Aralas

they were solid before eof, but since then they have fallen a bit to the point i heard that they stopped attempting contested mayong last but just what ive heard, and top 3 is alot easier to determine so i agree with ya there

Loudness

we killed it tonight, first pull... which brought up a few more questions

strikes fight was 7.5 minutes?

hrm, can someone do the math on that? i was told the fight was generally around 12 minutes..

is strike really 5 minutes faster than these other guilds?

or is a conspiracy?

parse your 50k raid dps