Originally Posted by Holeinabox

It doesn't matter if someone dies from the adds. It matters if they had the vision. Besides, if you have enough gear even divide and conquer is recoverable. How does the guy from Tyranny not know that?

If the raid has enough people dying that this is going to help them, then guess what they probably aren't going to do shit. All it's going to do is make people think they can do it when in reality they will hit a roadblock when the mechanic kicks in. It's not going to make 1 bit of difference.

I think it's funny that the people who are screaming that this needs to be fixed are people in top avatar killing guilds. Don't worry this isn't going to de-throne you of top guild on the server. Majority of you guys can already 2 and 3 group majority of the avatars and still 1 pull it.

I think the real issue is that these guilds are worried they are going to start losing avatars. OMG another guild is going to pull it....shit shit the world is ending! Man the fuck up and send your 2 groups over there and show them how it's done. The only way guilds lose avatars is by not staying on top of when each one spawns and killing it promptly when it does. That's the bottom line. Instead of crying about a change that doesn't do shit to you, maybe you should be focused on manning the fuck up and doing what you are supposed to do.

Originally Posted by Lyxson

Utopi, you in particular I did not like. Everyone who was not in your guild, you instantly hated, and if they left your guild, you instantly hated them. I remember many things you did to solely hinder the progression of other guilds. If there is one good thing I have to say about you though, it is that you are resilient and uncaring of other people's hate towards you. You've gone through many tough times and just keep coming back, and that, I can respect.

Originally Posted by Konrad

I didn't really read this thread, but... I'm going to state my opinions as facts while ignoring the 10 pages of reasons why I'm wrong

Originally Posted by oddyophile

All thanks to Argyuile's ass.

Originally Posted by TheEasternking

you are clearly a fucking idiot, you are on the worst fucking server in eq2 history to boot, so stfu talking like people want to listen to what you have to say.

I never cried any where about these changes, it was a tongue in cheek post saying 12 ppl died and no divide and conquer huh? grats on being to fucking dumb to notice that.

Originally Posted by Blackgate

I've played on Oasis and now play on Crushbone... on what do you base this comment of it being the worst server? Is it player population? Because Crushbone has a larger population than Oasis. Also, if you were around back in the day, Oasis was the red-headed step child of the EQ2 servers. If you are basing it on what mobs have died well I'm not sure about those facts so yeah, just wondering what makes you say "its the worst server in history"...

Originally Posted by kahonen

At risk of being given a hard time over this, can someone answer a couple of genuine questions please?

I can fully understand and appreciate how important it is to the top-end guilds to be able to kill these mobs (preferably first) and reap the well-deserved benefits but why, after TSO has been out for so long, is it so important that other people can't? Surely you've demonstrated how good you are by being able to kill the mobs un-nerfed for so long? If it's a loot thing and you want the best equipped toons, again, I can appreciate that but why are so many guilds now selling loot rights to drops that mere mortals don't have a hope in hell of getting by killing the mobs?

I really can't see a great deal of difference between SOE making raids easier and top-end guilds selling looting rights - the end effect is the same - toons get equipment which they haven't really worked for. The only real difference appears to be that keeping the mobs un-nerfed means that that the uber-guilds can continue to make lots of plat so they'll be even more uber when the next expansion comes out. Surely not?

Originally Posted by TheEasternking

Ive been on Oasis about 3 months, and you need to look no further than your guild tag for the reason why CB is the laughing stock of the raiding community.

I know you haven't been with them long, ...maybe they have changed now /shrug, i had heard gungo barely raids anymore so thats a huge plus for you guys.