Fed up with the easy mode changes? - Page 3

Pink Poodle · 08-30-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Or Lineage.

Or its sequel.

But for serious, MMOs are becoming more casual because... well, everything is.

firamas · 08-30-2009, 06:17 PM

Development and sustainment costs for top tier modern MMO's are so high these days that they can't support a "hardcore" ruleset. There just aren't enough players to make it financially viable. Add to that the fact that those kind of games generally make it harder for new players to get started and play catch-up once the game has been out for awhile, and you sort of squelch the possibility of long term profit.

But yes, I do miss the games where you dropped every single piece of gear you had on the ground when you were killed in PvP. Talk about hardcore, heh. When I was 15 I had someone drive to my house and throw a beer bottle through my car's windshield the night that I ganked him, stole all his shit, and taunted him in the public chat channels. Ah, memories!

Serias · 08-30-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Utopi

Hardcore in style and CASUAL in playtimes.

Right from your recruitment page fyi.

You can quote it, but you cant read it.

Slamdar · 08-30-2009, 07:19 PM

I don't really see how an individual can be called casual just because the guild website has that their play times are casual... I've been in casual guilds where there are a few members that play more than "hardcore" players do.

Utopi · 08-30-2009, 08:27 PM

Just pointing out why someone might be confused. Take it as you wish.

Slippery · 08-31-2009, 02:10 AM

I'm sure the guy didn't look at the website, he got told he is a retard and that is the best he could come up with.

Cenarius · 08-31-2009, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by alvarez

everybody here stopped raging about shit being made easy last month man, you're too late. if you bring this up now you'll get urinated on because we've gotten used to stuff being made easier in general and decided we cannot change it.

oops too late.

If soe decides to spent time on making old content for all the retards easier we can't do shit about so why getting angry.

Only thing which gets on my nerves are those fags arguing about these easy mode changes being too hard for them..

Meta · 08-31-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Utopi

Just pointing out why someone might be confused. Take it as you wish.

Dunno if it's still true but back when I was playing the best guilds would clear all raid content in a couple of nights max and the rest of the week was contested watch (which can be automated). So playtime != hardcore. In fact once all instances are on farm mode it's possibly the opposite.

mafoe · 08-31-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The-Order

Is anyone else out there sick and tired of the small changes that have been added over the past few years in this game? Some recent changes include skill ups go faster, also they changed a shit load of epic mobs down to just Triple up heroics in all the old world zones. Little changes here such as adding horses in Lavastorm or Looping Plains. Lavastorm used to be this huge scary zone that was dangerous, now its a fuckin baby zone where you can just fly clear up to the top. What happened to the adventure? Are gamers or developers just becoming lazier and impatient then they used to be? Any other veteran players sick of this game being made easier all the time?

You're fucking dumb with your OP and your following posts, too.

All your examples are shit. To come here and pick these examples for your complaint is entirely imbecile. Nobody gives a shit about fucking skills or stupid transportation (like the lack of it ever added something to the game?). Had you had the brains to at least pick something people could agree with, such as achievement points... but no.

Tell me, "veteran player", where is the name of your toon and your server, or are you too hardcore to stand to your identity?

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Uhm, no. Vanguard is the very best example how hardcores killed a game. It's simple: Hardcores can't maintain an epic MMOG because they are simply not enough. Therefore hardcores have zero rights to have an epic MMOG for themselfes

Hi there Captain Obvious. Has it occured to you that one single can might be able to offer content for a number of different playstyles, if done right? Your argumentation is flawed because from the obvious fact you mention (hardcore players alone cannot maintain a big MMO) you imply that hardcore players can kill a game, while in fact hardcore players and the rewards they invariably reap are exactly the carrot that the casual players need as incentive.

Utopi · 08-31-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Meta

Dunno if it's still true but back when I was playing the best guilds would clear all raid content in a couple of nights max and the rest of the week was contested watch (which can be automated). So playtime != hardcore. In fact once all instances are on farm mode it's possibly the opposite.

Every guild that has every mob on farm status is not casual. The very act of being hardcore allows guilds to get to the point of farming all the zones in a matter of 2 days. After that lazyness and bordem kick in.