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04-24-2007, 01:55 PM
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Character: Devastatin
Guild: Revelations
Server: Unrest
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
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Originally Posted by Pinski
Really? What popular perceptions are those? The ones of retarded people who think it says Fabled it must automatically be better?
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Fabled just means more points for allocation... And the allocation system is messed up... therefore sometimes legendary > fabled.
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04-24-2007, 02:04 PM
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
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Originally Posted by Johnathon
Fabled just means more points for allocation... And the allocation system is messed up... therefore sometimes legendary > fabled.
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It's not the allocation system, it's the fact that stats don't mean the same to everybody.
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04-24-2007, 02:55 PM
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
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Originally Posted by Pinski
Really? What popular perceptions are those? The ones of retarded people who think it says Fabled it must automatically be better?
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the popular perception that fabled is better because,,,,most of the time it is/was. Most epic names will drop something labled fabled most of the time. Where as lendendary items drop from group names, again, most of the time.
raid is greater then group= Fabled is greater then legendary. I think if you ran a pole most would agree with this, mainly cause it is true
I think those perception come from game playing experince, and have nothing to do with being retarded. In fact a sign of being a retard is calling people retards for simply making an observation and opening it up for discussion.
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04-24-2007, 03:44 PM
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Ratonga Power
Character: Cochy
Guild: None
Server: Unrest
Posts: 853
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
I find it funny how you think relic is actually good. Relic never should of been classified as fabled but it was so thats why your shoulders (I am guessing chaos etched mantle) is better.
The whole tag thing has been so overhyped as it is with people not looking at stats and effects but rather looking at the tag.
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04-24-2007, 04:02 PM
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Character: Vulking
Guild: VV
Server: Crushbone
Posts: 130
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
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Originally Posted by Cochy
I find it funny how you think relic is actually good. Relic never should of been classified as fabled but it was so thats why your shoulders (I am guessing chaos etched mantle) is better.
The whole tag thing has been so overhyped as it is with people not looking at stats and effects but rather looking at the tag.
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Which is entirely the emphasis of the OP post. He is basically asking the question about tags vs. stats and why there are, shall we say, discrepencies. If anything, relic should be tagged as legendary, but its not. Hence the discussion.
As to Pinski's posts; Of course your right if you focus on specifics. For instance, if you find a piece of plate that has crazy int as its primary stat and sub par mit, sure you are going to find a better pieces, even of legendary or maybe even treasured quality, because as a tank, you couldn't give a rats ass about int. Unless of course your an SK, then that piece may be superior. So under those circumstances,yeah you will always find those cases to be true. But, I hardly think focusing the discussion on specific cases gets to the general condition, which is itemization sucks. You speak to the exceptions, and not the rule.
Last edited by hammarus; 04-24-2007 at 04:06 PM.
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04-24-2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
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Originally Posted by hammarus
Which is entirely the emphasis of the OP post. He is basically asking the question about tags vs. stats and why there are, shall we say, discrepencies. If anything, relic should be tagged as legendary, but its not. Hence the discussion.
As to Pinski's posts; Of course your right if you focus on specifics. For instance, if you find a piece of plate that has crazy int as its primary stat and sub par mit, sure you are going to find a better pieces, even of legendary or maybe even treasured quality, because as a tank, you couldn't give a rats ass about int. So under those circumstances,yeah you will always find those cases to be true. But, I hardly think focusing the discussion on specific cases gets to the general condition, which is itemization sucks.
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Actually Relic is Fabled in the sense it has Fabled Mitigation and Health/Power values. It's exactly as I said for relic. Look at relic chain gloves for rogues and predators. It's got high health/power, 45 points of stats, but they're distributed in a way that make them really fucking shitty. The fact is, Relic is tagged Fabled because of the mitigation, health and power values it has, combined with how many stats have been allocated.
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04-24-2007, 04:13 PM
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Character: Vulking
Guild: VV
Server: Crushbone
Posts: 130
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
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Originally Posted by Pinski
Actually Relic is Fabled in the sense it has Fabled Mitigation and Health/Power values. It's exactly as I said for relic. Look at relic chain gloves for rogues and predators. It's got high health/power, 45 points of stats, but they're distributed in a way that make them really fucking shitty. The fact is, Relic is tagged Fabled because of the mitigation, health and power values it has, combined with how many stats have been allocated.
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So your saying the weighting value on the mit and hp/pwr is the greater determining factor in fabled tag. And that stats and procs/specials are lesser weighted?
Yet there are examples where legendary items have comparable hp/pwr with only slighly less mit (<30pts) and similar stats. Where they lose out on fabled status is the proc/special value. So Im not so sure about the amount of value you put towards mit and hp/pwr.
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04-24-2007, 04:16 PM
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
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Originally Posted by hammarus
So your saying the weighting value on the mit and hp/pwr is the greater determining factor in fabled tag. And that stats and procs/specials are lesser weighted?
Yet there are examples where legendary items have comparable hp/pwr with only slighly less mit (<30pts) and similar stats. Where they lose out on fabled status is the proc/special value. So Im not so sure about the amount of value you put towards mit and hp/pwr.
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No there are no Legendary gear of the same expansion with similar stats and mitigation to Fabled gear of the same expansion. Comparing Legendary gear from a newer expansion to Fabled gear of a previous expansion is like comparing Fabled gear from DoF to Legendary gear from KoS. See the problem there, obviously the legendary gear from KoS is going to be better because it's newer! Same with Legendary gear from EoF being nearly as good as Fabled gear from KoS!
This is why people are confused on Legendary vs. Fabled. Beacuse it gets REALLY hard to understand why 1 is Fabled and 1 is Legendary. It's basic progression.
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04-25-2007, 11:20 AM
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The Super Villain
Character: Whitaker Wondersparkles
Server: Befallen
Posts: 932
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Re: What is the difference between gear flagged legendary or fabled
I like how the best gloves in the game are legendary and drop off the trash in Freethinker Hideout.
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