Legends of Norrath loot card for gameplay? - Page 3

Havok · 10-01-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pink Poodle

Aion is having problems with Europe as far as I know.

I have not heard of any myself but could be.

I am getting the feeling that eq2 has become the alpha test servers for what ever mmo soe is developin next. Lon items needed for quests and instances, mechanic changes loot nerfs it's one giant beta test. With aion out and herring good reviews by players I would think soe would wait to put in things they know are going to piss off the players.

What would be funny is if these lon zones had gear in it with all the nerfed avatar shit lol.

alvarez · 10-01-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Niber

I don't think they're that sadistic. But, if true, this sets an ugly precedent where in order to enjoy the "full" game (no matter how insignificant) you are required to participate in micro-transactions.

well i was being humorous about the item drop, but dont we all know this is exactly where all this shit is gonna end up anyway? here, let me give you a totally fictitious scenario: buy phat loot with rl cash thru lon(or sc) or soe has to shut down eq2, even with your monthly subs. wwnd? (and if you already quit your answer doesnt count, im just making a point :p)

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Originally Posted by Pink Poodle

Which is a terrible idea for a game that's pay-to-play. Crappy f2p games like Fly For Fun or whatever get away with this since they are free-to-play, EQ2 is not. FFXI already pissed off some of its fanbase with its mini-adventure-packs that consist of like 2 raid mobs and some other crap (bad for the game's age to do) so MMO companies need to tread lightly when it comes to more content and money tbh.

they're obviously testing subscription+microtransactions, stop saying "but eq2 is not f2p" like that means anything pp. i hear what you're saying but i think your point is moot, train left the station, etc. they are quite clearly merging both types of payment and (for every person thats ever spent a nickle in lon or sc) showing that it works.

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Originally Posted by Diknak

yes, the LoN sales would go up, but would it be enough to offset the number of people that quit because of it? There was a huge uproar when loot cards and station cash were added but we have always been assured by SOE that rewards from these two would NEVER impact gameplay. I predicted that they would renig on that promise because they would get greedy.

the lon sales would go up, some old timers would quit, and new subs would keep trickling in. i dont believe for a second that the amount of people that actually quit over it would amount to more than a drop in the bucket. im not about to even pretend to do any math on it, but the whole "soe is stupid lolol" vibe is .. well, stupid. they are going to squeeze this bitch for every cent they can get. promises mean shit, it says on the box: gameplay may change.

edit: typo, you can keep the horrid grammar and punctuation though!

Havok · 10-01-2009, 02:42 PM

What new subs? When was the last time you saw a new player in the game. The player base is shrinking and has been. This makes it worse as top guilds loose people they have to get new ones, the new ones are not As good as the o es they are replacing so more people in top guilds leave. With the top players leaving the game gets worse as you need ayers that understand the mechanics of the game to give feedback and help polish new content.

mafoe · 10-01-2009, 03:38 PM

They're shoveling their own grave even faster with such shit.

winwin · 10-01-2009, 03:45 PM

Some of the new loot and my opinions:
Legends of Norrath: Travelers, Loot and Opinions.

Gori · 10-01-2009, 03:53 PM

Grimwell supposely posted this on the eq1 boards.
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Ok, thank you for your patience. I have enough information to share a little bit.
One of the loot items for the upcoming LON expansion Traveler's will indeed put the person who redeems it on a quest path that will take them to a special dungeon for that item holder. This person, and his/her group will be able to access the dungeon, explore the content, and receive whatever rewards are involved on it's successful completion.
I don't have a walk through and strategy for defeating this dungeon yet; but yes, this is enough to confirm the questions some of you have asked about the email.
Please feel welcome to continue to post your questions and concerns in this thread; I won't have all the answers in an immediate sense; but I'm certain more details will surface. I will likely route much of that to an article on the EQPlayers.com website so it can cast a wide net and inform as many players as possible.
Unrelated to that content, but relevant to this thread is the need for folks to calm down some of the back and forth and whipping on SOE staff. I am very open to getting as much feedback as possible; but a few people are dancing around the edge of what's acceptable for feedback and we need to get away from that.
[posted by Grimwell]
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Niber · 10-01-2009, 04:00 PM

Well, a spade is a spade according to Grimwell. Wonder how long Kiara will cower in the shadows before making the same announcement.

Pink Poodle · 10-01-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alvarez

they're obviously testing subscription+microtransactions, stop saying "but eq2 is not f2p" like that means anything pp. i hear what you're saying but i think your point is moot, train left the station, etc. they are quite clearly merging both types of payment and (for every person thats ever spent a nickle in lon or sc) showing that it works.

I understand they're testing the whole idea but having these two mixed can put a bad taste in the mouths of many players and possible players.

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Originally Posted by Havok

I have not heard of any myself but could be.

I am getting the feeling that eq2 has become the alpha test servers for what ever mmo soe is developin next. Lon items needed for quests and instances, mechanic changes loot nerfs it's one giant beta test. With aion out and herring good reviews by players I would think soe would wait to put in things they know are going to piss off the players.

What would be funny is if these lon zones had gear in it with all the nerfed avatar shit lol.

Some days I think SOE deliberately trolls the fanbases of their games.

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Originally Posted by winwin

Some of the new loot and my opinions:
Legends of Norrath: Travelers, Loot and Opinions.

Those are fine and all (the backpack looks really nicely-designed, doesn't LOTRO have backpacks too?) but yeah the key thing irks me.

P.S. This computer's being REALLY weird with multiquote at the moment, but here's a link to Aion's EU Launch trouble. Yes, I know it's on MMORPG.com, a site full of EVE, LOTRO, and (WHAT) random f2p game fanboys. Then again I am not surprised because typically European MMOs (EVE, AOC) are the only ones that don't get bogged down by problems for European launches as far as I can see.

mafoe · 10-01-2009, 04:05 PM

FUCK YOU GRIMWELL. That acceptable?

He treats it as if it was something coming over SOE from the outside, not something cooked up by their own arseraped minds.

Cracatoa · 10-01-2009, 04:32 PM

Its called Product Tying, and if they are selling you an incomplete product without informing you then making you by the rest...that's pretty amazingly fucked up. This is the exact reason nobody should trust SOE and why a mass cancellation right now would send them a very good message.