ZAM dev chat - Page 3

Pinski · 10-11-2009, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cenarius

great Idea since there are no PvP server... oh wait.. there are

fuck brenlo

Because people want to play and take part in open PvP.

Cheddar · 10-11-2009, 08:35 AM

Does anyone give a shit about PVP, how many people are even left on the EQ2 PVP servers (or is it server at this point?)

Another completely boring and pointless attempt to turn the game into WOW in the epic fail hope that all the WOW players will come and play.

Fail fail fail fail.

On a similar topic, I couldn't help but laugh at the shear number of people who said they hated anything to do with the void storyline in the recent 'post your eq2 pet peeves' post by SOE devs. Shame that the next expansion has yet another void infested storyline lol.

Illuminator · 10-11-2009, 11:28 AM

I didn't mind the whole Void thing but... was the lore there to make it as creepy as it ought to have been?

Pudaan · 10-11-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Uilamin

well it is useless unless you can get your crit multiplier above 1.7 or 1.8 and then it is useful again... at least on vox where everyone in T8 has full TSO raid or pvp gear (or a combination there of)

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Originally Posted by Paikis

Did it ever occur to you that you might be the one who is retarded?

Crit mit > crit chance and crit bonus.

Well it's good to see you guys still dont know anything about game mechanics, hey keep your crit down as low as you can then, easier kills for the rest of us.

You could spend 5minutes of your life testing this like most of the smarter players did the first week of the expansion, but spreading your bullshit to the other unsuspecting noobs works good to...

Ballads · 10-11-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pudaan

Well it's good to see you guys still dont know anything about game mechanics, hey keep your crit down as low as you can then, easier kills for the rest of us.

You could spend 5minutes of your life testing this like most of the smarter players did the first week of the expansion, but spreading your bullshit to the other unsuspecting noobs works good to...

TBh i haven't really tested it much myself. It was explained to me this way and it made sense so i kinda took their word for it. I also noticed that the pvp gear had base instead or crit bonus which further supported this idea. Its the way mobs crit bonus works so i had no reason to doubt it and test for myself. I would never claim to know more about pvp mechanics then someone who plays full time on a pvp server.
Please explain to us nubs the difference between crit mod to mit works in a pvp environment vrs pve. I always all about learning something.

Omence · 10-11-2009, 02:34 PM

I can only say what I have seen and experienced on Vox pvp...
Ive ran around Pvp with 120 melee crit for a good couple hours while the pvp was hot and my overall critical attacks was only 12%.... not to mention 26% melee crit bonus.
So in a pvp setting Crit mit rules the roost... I definately agree with Ballads seeing as how the pvp gear has base 6piece vs bonus.

Pink Poodle · 10-11-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheddar

Does anyone give a shit about PVP, how many people are even left on the EQ2 PVP servers (or is it server at this point?)

Another completely boring and pointless attempt to turn the game into WOW in the epic fail hope that all the WOW players will come and play.

Fail fail fail fail.

On a similar topic, I couldn't help but laugh at the shear number of people who said they hated anything to do with the void storyline in the recent 'post your eq2 pet peeves' post by SOE devs. Shame that the next expansion has yet another void infested storyline lol.

Nagafen is the second largest server, behind AB.

Also I think SOE (and others) realize that WOW players are mossy stones and will stay in WOW.

Also also "fail" is an overused word on the Internet.

Also also ALSO I kind of like the void, the TRIPPIN BALLS graphics are pretty cool but the storyline is like "lol aliens in fantasy game" I mean shit doesn't D&D do that? Might as well chuck us some Twi'lek ripoffs like WOW does.

Pudaan · 10-11-2009, 03:27 PM

You still hit for max damage on people if you have high crit, but it does not show up in the logs as a critical hit. Hard to put into words, but you will be hitting max damage more with high crits. If I never critical on someone with crit mit, then I would never hit for over 800 damage, that doesnt happen now and didnt happen at launch when I had no crit bonus.

Crit bonus is king because if you have more crit bonus then the other person has crit mit, you will crit on them.

But if you dont believe me, be my guest and take off all your +crit and come have a 1v1 with me!

Uilamin · 10-11-2009, 10:07 PM

Pudaan, have you done actual testing to show that they still do maximum damage after the crit is negated? I do not have proof to refute you as I have never tested it, but the way I understand crits is the following:

Player hits target
Player does x damage
Critical hit check
calculate crit mod

if crit mod is > 1.0 && crit == true
apply crit mod to player damage x
if x > max base damage
x = max base damage+1

assign damage

Therefore if the crit mod is 1 or less then the critical never happens meaning the damage increase to a minimum of max base damage never happens.

Kriptini · 10-12-2009, 02:12 AM

WOOOOOOOT! WILL THIS BE THE BRINGING BACK OF ARENA CHAMPIONS?! I HAVE ALL 23!!!